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Would you fly on a Boeing 737 Max?

scaramanga said:
Or the people that perform (or don't) the servicing and maintenance on the equipment.

Or (as in the case of the 737 Max) the pilots who don't RTFM.
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From my initial look at the report, looks like one or both of the above.

FAA suggested that the locking mechanism on the switches needs regular maintenance checks. It was only advisory, so Air India apparently decided it wasn't worth the bother.

Then FO FUs and everything goes to brick.
 
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scaramanga said:
From my initial look at the report, looks like one or both of the above.

FAA suggested that the locking mechanism on the switches needs regular maintenance checks. It was only advisory, so Air India apparently decided it wasn't worth the bother.

Then FO FUs and everything goes to brick.
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Yeh likely to have contributed but like someone saying earlier that even if locking was not working that switches would unlikely be able to just turn them selves to the extent needed to switch off, sounding IMO like pilot error, but that could be wrong.......
 
So, the initial reports suggest the air India crash was deliberate by at least one of the pilots. The fuel selectors had both been set to cut off, and never moved back to 'run' mode. And that isn't something that could accour accidentally. They are spring loaded switches that can only be moved on purpose. This action was done just before take off, which immediately triggered the deployment of the RAT. When you get a dual engine failure, procedure for going through the checklist will take around 60 seconds, which was about the total flight time in this horrible "accident", which now seems to be a criminal act by at least one of the pilots. Very sad.
We now know what happend, but we'll probably never know why.
 
Kandi1977 said:
So, the initial reports suggest the air India crash was deliberate by at least one of the pilots. The fuel selectors had both been set to cut off, and never moved back to 'run' mode. And that isn't something that could accour accidentally. They are spring loaded switches that can only be moved on purpose. This action was done just before take off, which immediately triggered the deployment of the RAT. When you get a dual engine failure, procedure for going through the checklist will take around 60 seconds, which was about the total flight time in this horrible "accident", which now seems to be a criminal act by at least one of the pilots. Very sad.
We now know what happend, but we'll probably never know why.
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I certainly wouldn't say deliberate at this point.

Just have a search for how often flaps have been selected instead of gear, or vice versa. These things happen, they happen to very experienced pilots too. Although I don't think this has ever happened at low altitude before.
 
Kandi1977 said:
So, the initial reports suggest the air India crash was deliberate by at least one of the pilots. The fuel selectors had both been set to cut off, and never moved back to 'run' mode. And that isn't something that could accour accidentally. They are spring loaded switches that can only be moved on purpose. This action was done just before take off, which immediately triggered the deployment of the RAT. When you get a dual engine failure, procedure for going through the checklist will take around 60 seconds, which was about the total flight time in this horrible "accident", which now seems to be a criminal act by at least one of the pilots. Very sad.
We now know what happend, but we'll probably never know why.
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Yet media claims the conversation was "Why did you do cut-off" to which the reply was Ï didn't"- and then they were put back to run mode and the left engine had restarted and was regaining thrust and the right was spooling up. Too low to do anything meaningful unfortunately, but would not make it crystal clear that this is deliberate just yet.
 
Trixster said:
Yet media claims the conversation was "Why did you do cut-off" to which the reply was Ï didn't"- and then they were put back to run mode and the left engine had restarted and was regaining thrust and the right was spooling up. Too low to do anything meaningful unfortunately, but would not make it crystal clear that this is deliberate just yet.
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The fuel selectors were, according to the sources I've seen, in the cut off position in the remains of the roosterpit. And they can't just go there by themselves. It has to be a deliberate action. There are scenarios where you put them in cut off, among them, engine failure, but only momentarily. You move them to cut off, then immediately put them back in run mode. The whole thing screams of a pilot with psychological problems and a death wish.
 
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