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Season Ticket Renewal Talk

Raziel said:
Not being an idiot for the sake of it, but his math is flimflam, 3X income is $2M?

WHL to new stadium is 2X the size (seats), probably 20-25% price increase but 6X the match day revenue.
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If my maths are correct, he's saying they have around 6,500 ST holders. That's nonsense given their stadium holds 75,000. Google says they have 38,000 ST holders. So, that means they take in 4m in ST sales at the price he quoted. Triple the price and that gives an additional 8m.

However, the prices he quotes are also nonsense. It's €145 for standing and €350-€765 for seats.

So basically, the whole statement is a load of flimflam.
 
johnola said:
I’m not a season ticket holder but the prices are surprisingly good surely?

I just paid a grand for new pads and discs for my car, and £2k for a few crowns and fillings at the dentist.

A pint of beer costs £6 plus at a pub now.

A lot of the population lose sight of inflation -it is 2024 not 1984.

The world doesn’t owe me a living and Spurs don’t owe me a seat in their house.
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Where are you drinking?

Over £7 in most London pubs now.
 
Bishop said:
It's more that German football has a different mentality when it comes to the fans. Firstly they obviously have the 50+1 rule which means that the clubs have to actually adhere to the desires of their fans more than from an outside investor. Secondly ticket prices in Germany are much cheaper across the board for the aforementioned reason so increasing the price doesn't actually add much to the bottom line.

This is what Uli Hoeness former Bayern Chairman said about ticket prices in 2022

“We could charge more than £104. Let’s say we charged £300. We’d get £2m more in income, but what’s £2m to us?”

“In a transfer discussion, you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk,”

It's just a different mentality.
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That was their quote in 2022. Lets see what they are saying after negotiating the Kane fee with Levy :D ....
 
Raziel said:
Not being an idiot for the sake of it, but his math is flimflam, 3X income is $2M?

WHL to new stadium is 2X the size (seats), probably 20-25% price increase but 6X the match day revenue.
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The Bayern argument is always false
They charge cheap season tickets but massive prices for non season tickets
 
johnola said:
I’m not a season ticket holder but the prices are surprisingly good surely?
A lot of the population lose sight of inflation - it is 2024 not 1984.
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Yes, Spurs said "In the five years since the stadium opened in April, 2019, there has only been one season ticket price increase of 1.5%" which is insanely good value.
The cost of services Spurs pay for probably went up 3% in 2020, 3% in 2021, 3% in 2022, 3% in 2023, 3% in 2024... that's 15% without even compounding it.
Really Spurs should have put the prices up 2% each year, nobody could quibble at that and it would just run on and on compounding each time.
Seats are so hard to come by that I don't even bother any more, so demand is super high.
 
DeanoAustin said:
The Athletic have done a piece on it saying "Tottenham fans are raging at the increase". The say they've spoken to "many" fans and the typical reaction is unhappiness at the increase. The issue I have with hyperbole like that in the media is that many Tottenham fans aren't raging about it at all. If you look on here, most have accepted an increase is inevitable. It's tabloid terminology. You can find "many" fans who will support whatever position you want to take on this increase but "Spurs fans mildly irritated by increase" isn't quite as click-baity.

The bit of substance in the article is that this "will make an extra £2.5million ($3.2m) to £3m per year. Not nothing, but not a lot in the context of a stadium that brings in more than £5m for every home game Spurs play there."

That does make it seem that the club is hitting loyal fans for something that will increase our matchday revenue (which is apparently £95m a season) by just over 3% at most and our overall revenue (based on 2022/23 numbers which did include CL) by less than half a percent. I guess the caveat there is that the £95m number is revenue rather than profit so the spin is designed to make the club look as bad as possible.

It's not a good look I guess and it does look like bad PR and hitting loyal fans for a fairly small return.
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I agree with this completely.

The key metric for Spurs is probably 'will the stadium still sell out?' And despite all of those (in many cases legitimate) complaints, I'd say the stadium will still sell out for all Premier League matches.
 
tommysvr said:
I agree with this completely.

The key metric for Spurs is probably 'will the stadium still sell out?' And despite all of those (in many cases legitimate) complaints, I'd say the stadium will still sell out for all Premier League matches.
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Our official attendance doesn't have us as selling out every seat, are a random amount held back each match for some reason?
 
Bishop said:
Our official attendance doesn't have us as selling out every seat, are a random amount held back each match for some reason?
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No
We declare attendance not tickets sold
Other clubs do the reverse
It’s why city and arsenal have had games with loads of empty seats and declared a full house (their fans put bin bags on seats to highlight it)
 
Bishop said:
Our official attendance doesn't have us as selling out every seat, are a random amount held back each match for some reason?
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Season ticket holders that don’t turn up? Other tickets not taken up? Not sure…but we do seem to always ‘sell out’
 
We should like to confirm Season Ticket renewal and matchday ticketing information for the forthcoming 2025/26 season.

Pricing​

We have conducted a formal consultation process with our Fan Advisory Board (FAB) and Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust (THST) that has been ongoing since September 2024. We can confirm that there will be no increase on either Season Ticket or match ticket prices – across both our Men’s and Women’s teams - for the 2025/26 season.

Season Ticket renewal​


Men’s team Season Ticket renewals for the 2025/26 season will open at 10am on Monday 17 March and remain open until after the end of the current season.

The deadline to complete payment and retain your seat for next season is 5pm, Tuesday 27 May.

Once again, we shall be working with V12 Finance to offer a payment option to supporters wishing to spread the cost of their Season Ticket across 10 months. Subject to approval, payments will commence in June and continue for a further 9 months. If you wish to pay via V12 Finance, your loan will be subject to a one-off arrangement fee (admin fee) of 6.31%.

Full details on how to renew your seat will be communicated directly via email.

Season Ticket renewal information for the Women’s team will be communicated in due course.

Senior Concessions​

The Club appreciates the loyalty and commitment of supporters from all generations and has one of the highest levels of Senior Concession Senior Ticket (SCST) holders of any Premier League club.

Since moving to our new stadium, the number of SCSTs has increased to four times the number at White Hart Lane - with the stadium’s capacity being less than double. We want to ensure that our ticketing approach remains balanced and accessible for all supporters.

We have therefore been reviewing SCST usage and have now introduced the Ticket Upgrade feature to ensure the appropriate use of these tickets.

As a result of this review, and having received representations from our FAB and THST, we have agreed that there should be ongoing availability of new Senior Concession Season Tickets for future seasons within the parameters of the current balance of tickets. The Club will offer SCSTs that become available in order of those who have held their Season Tickets the longest.

Having worked with fans to review ticket usage, including transfer and upgrade options, the use of the Ticket Upgrade feature is now obligatory to ensure that concessions are used appropriately and, in doing so, ensure that future SCSTs become available to those who become eligible. We shall also be introducing a number of processes including increased spot checks and ID verification to prevent the misuse of concession tickets.

As outlined in our Ticketing Charter, from the 2025/26 season, the qualifying age for a senior concession—both for Season Tickets and matchdays—will align with the State Pension Age (SPA), currently 66 years old, depending on date of birth.

Premier League matchday senior concessions continue to be available, with a 25% discount, in line with Young Adult pricing; Junior concessions with a 50% discount.
 
Fair play on freezing pricing and rolling back to a degree on the senior concessions.

Ticket Share can now only be done to Members - that won’t be so popular.

No Auto cup scheme going forward (so no extra 10 LPs).

No more selling/sharing a Cat A ticket and getting a Cat A refund - refunds now 1/19th of ST value for each match.

And an olive branch to ROTS and others trying to find ways to improve the atmosphere.

Good moves by the club at an initial glance.
 
Good that they're getting rid of free LPs for being on the automatic cup scheme. All you had to do was use an account with no money on and you didn't actually have to buy any tickets.

I get the reason for 1/19th of the cost, but they'll still sell them for the same price as other tickets. More money for the club despite a freeze on prices.
 
Jordinho said:
Good that they're getting rid of free LPs for being on the automatic cup scheme. All you had to do was use an account with no money on and you didn't actually have to buy any tickets.

I get the reason for 1/19th of the cost, but they'll still sell them for the same price as other tickets. More money for the club despite a freeze on prices.
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Yeah that’s true. But given that the club would already have baked in ticketing revenue projections based on the removal of senior concessions which they are now reinstating, albeit to a limited extent, that shortfall was always going to be made up somewhere.
 
In the interest of fairness to our One Hotspur Members, Ticket Share will only be permissible to those holding a Club membership.

Hmm, not sure about that one. I took the Missus to the Utd league Cup Quarter Final. I would now have to buy her a membership to do similar. Plus that game was under capacity by nearly 5K. Don't think much of that idea tbh.
 
nelto said:
In the interest of fairness to our One Hotspur Members, Ticket Share will only be permissible to those holding a Club membership.

Hmm, not sure about that one. I took the Missus to the Utd league Cup Quarter Final. I would now have to buy her a membership to do similar. Plus that game was under capacity by nearly 5K. Don't think much of that idea tbh.
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I'm with you on that
 
Jordinho said:
Good that they're getting rid of free LPs for being on the automatic cup scheme. All you had to do was use an account with no money on and you didn't actually have to buy any tickets.

I get the reason for 1/19th of the cost, but they'll still sell them for the same price as other tickets. More money for the club despite a freeze on prices.
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If that's the reason why then just do away with the extra LPs - I'm on the scheme because I will always take my ticket for any home cup game so now I'm going to have to apply for a lot more games each season - might not seem much but that's a fair bit of inconvenience that I wouldn't have otherwise had, pretty tinkled off about this one actually.

I didn't even know i got extra points for it 😂
 
billyiddo said:
If that's the reason why then just do away with the extra LPs - I'm on the scheme because I will always take my ticket for any home cup game so now I'm going to have to apply for a lot more games each season - might not seem much but that's a fair bit of inconvenience that I wouldn't have otherwise had, pretty tinkled off about this one actually.

I didn't even know i got extra points for it 😂
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10 points but you only get the actual LP's for the games if you tap in
 
Jordinho said:
I get the reason for 1/19th of the cost, but they'll still sell them for the same price as other tickets. More money for the club despite a freeze on prices.
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...when ST holder is refunded correctly and new purchaser is paying the normal car A, B, C price.

The club earning money without extracting more from fans...is that a problem?
 
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