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**Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**

Armchair Expert said:
Whats the point in all these ridiculous Russian clubs that don't represent any fan base or city whatsoever?

Aren't Anzi supposed to be based in Dagestan or something? But play like 3000 miles away in Moscow?
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There is no point. It is just the vanity of some rich pricks who should be doing something more worthwhile with their money.
 
Armchair Expert said:
Whats the point in all these ridiculous Russian clubs that don't represent any fan base or city whatsoever?

Aren't Anzi supposed to be based in Dagestan or something? But play like 3000 miles away in Moscow?
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Anzhi are based in Moscow, but play their home league matches in Dagestan. Anzhi, Rubin and at least one Moscow club have used the Luzhniki for Europa League matches, though I think Rubin played in Kazan for their autumn matches.
 
Jordinho said:
Actual attendance figures for Man Utd revealed: http://redsaway.com/2013/04/revealed-how-many-people-actually-go-to-old-trafford/

Only once in 24 home games have they reported less than 70K, yet the only time there were actually that many present was against Real Madrid. The website will publish real numbers for Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City later.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/12/manchester-united-attendances-police-figures

Manchester United declare attendances far higher than police figures


Manchester United are adding as many as 24,000 fans on to crowd attendances compared with the actual number of people watching games at Old Trafford, according to police data.

Sir Alex Ferguson's team have not had a single crowd over 70,000 for a league match, police say, not taking in Monday's game against Emirates Marketing Project. The club, in contrast, recorded attendances in excess of 75,000 every time. Instead Greater Manchester police's figures claim the average crowd for league matches, excluding City, is 10,000 below what the club say. The police records state it is 65,601 rather than the official figure of 75,527. In all competitions it is 61,739 rather than the club's 73,653.

United are still the best-supported club in England by some distance but the new set of figures claim Old Trafford was not even half-full for the Capital One Cup tie against Saudi Sportswashing Machine in September. The police recorded the number of people who passed through the turnstiles at 33,409. United gave the crowd as 46,358. In the next round, against West Ham, the disparity was even bigger. The police put down the crowd as 51,724, whereas United recorded it as 71,081.

When United played Cluj in the Champions League in December, having qualified for the knockout stages, the crowd was announced as 71,521. In fact, the police say it was 46,894.

The disparity is because United, in common with other clubs, release the number of people who bought tickets, whether or not they attend. The police keep their own record of actual match-goers for safety purposes and have released the data to the Redsaway fans' website under the Freedom of Information Act.

The figures show the high number of supporters who will buy tickets for matches without going. Arsenal are among the clubs who suffer the same problem on a large scale.

United's largest crowd of the season for a league match, according to the police, was 69,933 for Liverpool's visit in January (the club put it at 75,501). The lowest was against Southampton later that month. On that occasion the official attendance was given at 75,600 when, according to the police, the genuine figure was 59,766. In other words, almost 16,000 ticket-holders stayed away.

The Real Madrid match in the Champions League attracted the one 70,000-plus attendance at Old Trafford this season, in the data. The police recorded it at 72,299 whereas United declared it was 74,959, lower than any domestic league match because of Uefa's seating restrictions.
 
'Under FA rules, United, as the host club, must publish the ‘official attendance’, which includes everyone who bought a ticket whether they went to the game or not.'


Strange how that wasn't reported in the Guardians article..


Anyone know how true that FA rule is?
 
Get in Wednesday. The relegation battle in the Championship is ridiculously tight. We could see two clubs make it two relegations in a row.

Code: 
9	Sheffield Wed	42	50 - 57	56
10	Middlesbrough	41	57 - 62	55
11	Derby		41	59 - 56	54
12	Burnley		41	57 - 56	54
13	Charlton	41	51 - 55	54
14	Birmingham	42	59 - 65	54
15	Ipswich		41	40 - 55	53
16	Millwall	40	49 - 55	52
17	Leeds		42	51 - 62	52
18	Blackpool	41	56 - 54	51
19	Barnsley	41	51 - 61	49
20	Wolverhampton	41	51 - 60	48
21	Huddersfield	41	42 - 68	48
22	Blackburn	40	48 - 55	47
23	Peterborough	41	59 - 67	47
24	Bristol City	41	56 - 74	40
 
Everton: Howard, Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Mirallas, Osman, Gibson, Pienaar, Fellaini, Anichebe.
QPR: Cesar, Bosingwa, Samba, Hill, Onuoha, Granero, Jenas, Townsend, Hoilett, Park, Remy

Reading: McCarthy, Gunter, Morrison, Mariappa, Kelly, Karacan, Guthrie, McAnuff, Hunt, McCleary, Pogrebnyak
Liverpool: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Agger, Carragher, Lucas, Henderson, Gerrard, Coutinho, Sturridge, Suarez

Arsenal: Fabianski, Sagna, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Gibbs, Arteta, Wheelchair, Ramsey, Cazorla, Gervinho, Giroud
Norwich: Bunn, Martin, Bassong, Turner, Whittaker, Johnson, Howson, Tettey, Snodgrass, Kamara, Holt
 
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