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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Glenda's Legs said:
Kemi Badenoch in her conference speech having a dig at Reform for their challenges as to who qualifies as being "English" - and gives examples of better days when one could not imagine the likes of Ian Wright or John Barnes facing such questions. Erm - I think they endured quite bit more than that! I mean if you don't know, it would take 2 seconds to google and find out. Who writes and checks these speeches?
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Do we think Kemi might have got the same sort of abuse being a Black Woman rising to the very top of a right wing political party?

Point is, I think she knows what they have gone through.
 
MadSpurs said:
Do we think Kemi might have got the same sort of abuse being a Black Woman rising to the very top of a right wing political party?

Point is, I think she knows what they have gone through.
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My experience is that racism is not uniform. So it is hard to say what she has faced. But it may be that she has, in which case she is displaying very little empathy towards others who have suffered such abuse.



To others who say racism has got worse, it's not for me to disagree with lived experience. And in particular, antisemitism and anti Muslim hatred does seem to be growing. From my point of view though, the diversity I see around me especially when I see my kids' friendship groups compared to mine growing up in the 80s, also the number of blended relationships and the awareness of racism on an individual and organisational level I would say the situation has improved. Which gives me hope that humans can become more tolerant.

But the big issue is that negative news, disinformation and algorithms amplifying both are certainly doing their best to drag us backwards. So we need to be better as a society to resist that brick.
 
Lost Mango said:
Thanks. I'll try and get to that podcast later today.

Agree that there are many, many definitions and levels of Zionism and that in itself creates some of this issue. Do any people have the right to a recognised homeland though? Legally?

Do the Kurds? the Basques? The Rohingya? Tibetans? Sikhs?
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Don't forget the Cornish.
 
The Green Party's clear and obvious failings should be seen for what they are. Most of us would like our envions cleaner, tidier and less polluted. We'd like to see our ocean's flourish, our heathland's abound with life, our forests swell with life, our floodplains sensibly managed and our green spaces well managed and free to be enjoyed by all. All of that should be policy for a balanced mainstream party capable of unity, careful planning and effective implementation.

On a number of visits to Brighton, all I saw around me was filth and chaos. Overflowing bins, crap everywhere and it was hard to understand how a 'Green Party" could not manage such simple tenets.

This latest nonsense is just 'of the time', an opportunity to continue to peddle Student Union politics, to further fan the flames of division and misunderstanding. You'd expect that such harmful, divisive language would exist at polar opposites to what The Greens should stand for but are polar opposites linear or more cyclical? Too many gimmicks, too many self adulating confidence tricksters and now levels of hypocrisy rarely seen. The Greens moving so far left they have ended up right. Defining these various, nuanced 'Isms' and 'Ides' isn't really compatible with modern sensationalism.
 
Clarky said:
On a number of visits to Brighton, all I saw around me was filth and chaos. Overflowing bins, crap everywhere
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I live fairly near Brighton and am in town regularly. It is no more filthy than any other urban set up, the litter and filth is no more, probably less than most other towns and cities I go to. And chaos? Not sure what that means? The traffic flow is poor but that is just how the roads are set up in a sprawling Victorian development, bus lanes don't help car drivers and there are always roads being mended but again, normal.
 
Clarky said:
The Green Party's clear and obvious failings should be seen for what they are. Most of us would like our envions cleaner, tidier and less polluted. We'd like to see our ocean's flourish, our heathland's abound with life, our forests swell with life, our floodplains sensibly managed and our green spaces well managed and free to be enjoyed by all. All of that should be policy for a balanced mainstream party capable of unity, careful planning and effective implementation.

On a number of visits to Brighton, all I saw around me was filth and chaos. Overflowing bins, crap everywhere and it was hard to understand how a 'Green Party" could not manage such simple tenets.

This latest nonsense is just 'of the time', an opportunity to continue to peddle Student Union politics, to further fan the flames of division and misunderstanding. You'd expect that such harmful, divisive language would exist at polar opposites to what The Greens should stand for but are polar opposites linear or more cyclical? Too many gimmicks, too many self adulating confidence tricksters and now levels of hypocrisy rarely seen. The Greens moving so far left they have ended up right. Defining these various, nuanced 'Isms' and 'Ides' isn't really compatible with modern sensationalism.
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I've been to Brighton quite a few times over the past couple of years and always thought it was nice place.
Other than some of the bars and restaurants feeling like they don't want tourists, which is really odd, it has a good feeling around it.
 
When i worked down in Hove everyone’s biggest complaints were traffic and litter.

The seafront/esplanade has improved a fair bit in my lifetime but getting there is a pita.
 
glasgowspur said:
I've been to Brighton quite a few times over the past couple of years and always thought it was nice place.
Other than some of the bars and restaurants feeling like they don't want tourists, which is really odd, it has a good feeling around it.
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Some lovely newish places to eat down there too. Burnt Orange was a lovely visit last time I was there.

Another favourite for me is to have an hour or two in Hove when the cricket is on, sit in the sun with a beer. Bliss
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
And yet it's a fantastic place.

(Chaos? Lol)
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Don't get me wrong, it has plenty of plusses and a great vibe. Maybe they have started to get things sorted these days. I was chatting about it with someone at lunchtime and apparently there were serious issues with bins not being collected and recycling failing due to the unions. I did find the road systems a bit of a PITA but then they'd prefer me to arrive on a tofu-framed unicycle with a vegan bacon saddle, so I took that as policy over mismanagement.
 
Clarky said:
Don't get me wrong, it has plenty of plusses and a great vibe. Maybe they have started to get things sorted these days. I was chatting about it with someone at lunchtime and apparently there were serious issues with bins not being collected and recycling failing due to the unions. I did find the road systems a bit of a PITA but then they'd prefer me to arrive on a tofu-framed unicycle with a vegan bacon saddle, so I took that as policy over mismanagement.
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The road system is a test to navigate granted (unless you're local). And parking costs have gone thru the roof.

That said getting the train in drops you right in the mix at the top of Queens Road.

Twice we nearly moved to Brighton but I guess I wouldn't own the house I live in now if we did. You can't save money in Brighton!, too much to see and do.
 
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