Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[parklane1]

Yeah I'm happy for things to stay as it is.

You could argue if you can buy beer anytime and bring it to your seat, there'd be a lot more disturbance of fans with people shuffling back and forth along the rows of seats getting in and out.

This, feel sorry for those who can not watch a match without having a pint in their hands.

 

[Baleforce]

I don't believe it's a national ban though, it's the organisation, in this case the PL.

I go to Chelmsford City fairly regularly and can take my pint to my seat during the game if I wish.

 

[Glenda's Legs]

I don't believe it's a national ban though, it's the organisation, in this case the PL.

I go to Chelmsford City fairly regularly and can take my pint to my seat during the game if I wish.

Premier League,Championship, L1 and L2.
Below that it’s permitted as I understand.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Premier League,Championship, L1 and L2.
Below that it’s permitted as I understand.

I think NL has banned it but not 100%

 

[Baleforce]

I think NL has banned it but not 100%

Chelmsford are NL South.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Chelmsford are NL South.

Indeed, I was just saying, I think its banned in the NL, maybe, been a while since I have been to a NL game

 

[Baleforce]

This is a massive step backwards, this will cause untold suffering to thousands of children.

NHS bodies in England impose two-year minimum wait for ADHD and autism assessments

Patient groups decry ‘scandalous’ delays as four integrated care boards take step due to soaring demand for diagnoses

www.theguardian.com

And the PM is wasting his time on beer at football matches, this suggests to me he is more out of touch than Starmer.

It's disgusting.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

This is a massive step backwards, this will cause untold suffering to thousands of children.

NHS bodies in England impose two-year minimum wait for ADHD and autism assessments

Patient groups decry ‘scandalous’ delays as four integrated care boards take step due to soaring demand for diagnoses

www.theguardian.com

And the PM is wasting his time on beer at football matches, this suggests to me he is more out of touch than Starmer.

It's disgusting.

yeh thats sh1t

 

[Gutter Boy]

I really hope Burnham's idea of being allowed to drink in your seat at a PL game doesn't go much further than the idea stage.

Anything to reduce the cocaine usage, and the behaviour that comes with that, should be welcomed

My one hesitation is that it'll likely increase the number of weak bladder idiots who can't stay in their seats for 45 minutes

 

[Gutter Boy]

This is a massive step backwards, this will cause untold suffering to thousands of children.

NHS bodies in England impose two-year minimum wait for ADHD and autism assessments

Patient groups decry ‘scandalous’ delays as four integrated care boards take step due to soaring demand for diagnoses

www.theguardian.com

And the PM is wasting his time on beer at football matches, this suggests to me he is more out of touch than Starmer.

It's disgusting.

I think there's quick wins to be had that are separate from medicalisation. In particular I think we could wholesale make the world far more ND friendly, which would remove many barriers and things that cause people distress.

In particular, for starters, there would be:
- Tighter levels and far greater enforcement of noise level limits, particularly focusing on construction and transport. Electrification of buses and lorries and just turning off all tanoys would make a huge difference. Banning buskers with amplification too. You shouldn't have 1/4 of your population needing noise cancelling headphones just to be able to go outdoors.
- An overhaul of lighting in public buildings to remove all harsh and fluorescent style fittings and introduce more daylight or natural style artifical light
- A far greater understanding in schools and the workplace that a big part of the population can't cope with this artificially sedentary life, and more design of these around movement and a flexibility

 

[Baleforce]

I think there's quick wins to be had that are separate from medicalisation. In particular I think we could wholesale make the world far more ND friendly, which would remove many barriers and things that cause people distress.

In particular, for starters, there would be:
- Tighter levels and far greater enforcement of noise level limits, particularly focusing on construction and transport. Electrification of buses and lorries and just turning off all tanoys would make a huge difference. Banning buskers with amplification too. You shouldn't have 1/4 of your population needing noise cancelling headphones just to be able to go outdoors.
- An overhaul of lighting in public buildings to remove all harsh and fluorescent style fittings and introduce more daylight or natural style artifical light
- A far greater understanding in schools and the workplace that a big part of the population can't cope with this artificially sedentary life, and more design of these around movement and a flexibility

The adjustments in education are key, that’s where the damage is done, it can be a hostile environment to many.

Adjustments are only funded and made for children who have a diagnosis, and that can take years to conclude as well, burning 4 years in inadequate provision is, well, child cruelty.

 

[johnaliola]

Who wants their Stoned Island jacket covered in beer and slash anyway.

 

[Gutter Boy]

The adjustments in education are key, that’s where the damage is done, it can be a hostile environment to many.

Adjustments are only funded and made for children who have a diagnosis, and that can take years to conclude as well, burning 4 years in inadequate provision is, well, child cruelty.

Agree. But why keep needing to make adjustments for specific cases, when you could change fundamental things once and make it more appropriate for all. Things like baffling on ceilings to stop echo-y acoustics, more learning through active means (on your feet rather than sat) etc.

 

[Baleforce]

Agree. But why keep needing to make adjustments for specific cases, when you could change fundamental things once and make it more appropriate for all. Things like baffling on ceilings to stop echo-y acoustics, more learning through active means (on your feet rather than sat) etc.

I agree, but it would be a fundamental change, you’d have to rip it up and start again.

 

[MadSpurs]

Premier League,Championship, L1 and L2.
Below that it’s permitted as I understand.

Banned from Step 5 upwards.

So The National League is also part of the ban, Steps 6,7,8, etc all exempt

 

[thfcsteff]

Anything to reduce the cocaine usage, and the behaviour that comes with that, should be welcomed

My one hesitation is that it'll likely increase the number of weak bladder idiots who can't stay in their seats for 45 minutes

This should be a global mission statement for life in general. What a useless f ukcing drug.

 

[thfcsteff]

This is a massive step backwards, this will cause untold suffering to thousands of children.

NHS bodies in England impose two-year minimum wait for ADHD and autism assessments

Patient groups decry ‘scandalous’ delays as four integrated care boards take step due to soaring demand for diagnoses

www.theguardian.com

And the PM is wasting his time on beer at football matches, this suggests to me he is more out of touch than Starmer.

It's disgusting.

Infuriating.
Tell you what, in the interim whilst people 'figure out the authenticity' of the diagnosis', let's just give these kids a slap around the head and tell them to 'man up and get on with it like I had to' or some such bolox...

 

[thfcsteff]

I think there's quick wins to be had that are separate from medicalisation. In particular I think we could wholesale make the world far more ND friendly, which would remove many barriers and things that cause people distress.

In particular, for starters, there would be:
- Tighter levels and far greater enforcement of noise level limits, particularly focusing on construction and transport. Electrification of buses and lorries and just turning off all tanoys would make a huge difference. Banning buskers with amplification too. You shouldn't have 1/4 of your population needing noise cancelling headphones just to be able to go outdoors.
- An overhaul of lighting in public buildings to remove all harsh and fluorescent style fittings and introduce more daylight or natural style artifical light
- A far greater understanding in schools and the workplace that a big part of the population can't cope with this artificially sedentary life, and more design of these around movement and a flexibility

I agree with all of this theoretically AND think this 2 year minimum rubbish is hugely detrimental.

Your observations on lighting are particularly sharp IMO, in fact I think all of them (beyond the buskers, I disagree with you there!) are on point.

 

[thfcsteff]

The adjustments in education are key, that’s where the damage is done, it can be a hostile environment to many.

Adjustments are only funded and made for children who have a diagnosis, and that can take years to conclude as well, burning 4 years in inadequate provision is, well, child cruelty.

For me, another huge major issue is the optical echo of the headline. A whole raft of people will now suddenly think ND-issues are all (essentially) rubbish and conflate them into being 'lefty woke' blah blah blah. You know what I'm saying...those folks have been empowered. Makes me angry and sad.

 

[Gutter Boy]

This should be a global mission statement for life in general. What a useless f ukcing drug.

Absolutely. I'm generally pro-drugs. Well the fun ones - psychedelics etc. Ones that make people nice or thoughtful. But coke just turns everyone into boring unpleasant clams.