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Levy's Plan

Lemonade Money said:
Don't waste your breath.
Levy = bad
No Levy = good
Some of the comments about how much better it is without him are laughable. Let's just see how it plays out.
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This summer doesn’t happen without Levy’s vision and work. We’d be in a similar position to Saudi Sportswashing Machine and Villa without him. The people currently running the club have a platform to do what they’re doing because of Levy regardless of what you make of his 25 years in charge.
 
DeanoAustin said:
This summer doesn’t happen without Levy’s vision and work. We’d be in a similar position to Saudi Sportswashing Machine and Villa without him. The people currently running the club have a platform to do what they’re doing because of Levy regardless of what you make of his 25 years in charge.
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Well said, i know there are a some fans [ especially the CFT mob] that blame him for our troubles but i honestly believe we are a much better posistion then when he first got here.
 
DTA said:
You said 6-7 years
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Well if you include Poch’s last full season then yes we did finish 4th. But my point was it’s been by and large a downward trajectory since we sacked him, only one top 4 finish and finishing in the bottom half. Unless you think the league finishes I highlighted constitute progress?
 
Jurgen the German said:
Well if you include Poch’s last full season then yes we did finish 4th. But my point was it’s been by and large a downward trajectory since we sacked him, only one top 4 finish and finishing in the bottom half. Unless you think the league finishes I highlighted constitute progress?
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Of course you include Poch’s last year if you are going back 7 years. Which is the time period you set.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Well even so it’s 2 top 4 finishes in 7 years. I ask again is that progress on what Poch delivered in terms of league finishes?
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on what Poch Delivered? Did that have nothing to do with Levy then?

Because that means what came after Poch had nothing to do with Levy either.

But you ain’t gonna agree with that are you?

Let me ask you a question.

Apart from the Levy era when in a 7 year period did we finish top four more than twice.

I’m guessing in the 60s and maybe … maybe the 80s. If so two decades out of our history match up levy’s worst period… are you getting it yet?
 
DTA said:
on what Poch Delivered? Did that have nothing to do with Levy then?

Because that means what came after Poch had nothing to do with Levy either.

But you ain’t gonna agree with that are you?

Let me ask you a question.

Apart from the Levy era when in a 7 year period did we finish top four more than twice.

I’m guessing in the 60s and maybe … maybe the 80s. If so two decades out of our history match up levy’s worst period… are you getting it yet?
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Of course it had something to do with Levy. He’s partly responsible when we succeed and when we fail.

I already mentioned previous eras where we achieved multiple top four finishes, and trophies.

The question you keep refusing to answer, are the league finishes 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th, 8th, 5th, 17th what progression looks like? Should Levy have had a lifetime pass because he improved upon his predecessor?

I don’t think there’s any question that we went backwards since Poch left from a football standpoint but you clearly disagree. Finishing outside of the top 4 more frequently than we finished inside it including a 17th place finish is clearly an improvement on what Poch (and Levy) had achieved previously.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Of course it had something to do with Levy. He’s partly responsible when we succeed and when we fail.

I already mentioned previous eras where we achieved multiple top four finishes, and trophies.

The question you keep refusing to answer, are the league finishes 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th, 8th, 5th, 17th what progression looks like? Should Levy have had a lifetime pass because he improved upon his predecessor?

I don’t think there’s any question that we went backwards since Poch left from a football standpoint but you clearly disagree. Finishing outside of the top 4 more frequently than we finished inside it including a 17th place finish is clearly an improvement on what Poch (and Levy) had achieved previously.
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Of course we regressed from where we were 7 years ago.

I’m just saying even in that 7 year period of regression in the league it was still one of our best 7 year periods in terms of league finishes in our entire history.

And I strongly believe that Levy would have turned it around and had us competing again.

I don’t have that faith in this lot… who have made terrible football decisions and this summer have thrown a lot of the clubs future revenue to back a manager that I like but has not proved himself here… or anywhere else for that matter. While selling some top young prospects

I’m a spurs fan so I obviously hope it works out. But it’s risky.
 
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