Anyone leading on EU stuff will not make it. Focus on the people.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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Rorschach
Mel Hopkins
Yeah, he didn't mention it in the interview, just said the referendum was a mistake. Rejoin is the popular opinion, especially among Labour voters (80%), but it would be an open goal for Reform and the right-wing press at this moment.
We need to try and succeed as a nation in spite of the economic self harm that came from Brexit.
I think most people who voted for it seem to be incapable of seeing the mistake or they don't care. They just shout stuff like "arrr laws" "human rights laws are bad" lol
johnola
Dean Richards
was that not put to the public by Clegg with Approaching 100% disinterest?
Rorschach
Mel Hopkins
At least this number is dwindling. No doubt some will not change their mind, sunk cost fallacy, ideology, etc, but the move back to the EU is an inevitability IMO. Brexit is an anchor pulling you down. To their credit, Starmer and his government recognise this at least, and to his credit, have acted on it to a degree. The red lines will need to be binned at some point, though.
johnola
Dean Richards
because it’s not an offence to receive a gift.
Rorschach
Mel Hopkins
NIck Clegg? No idea.
My point was that Labour will fall into irrelevance, like the Tories, unless they change the political system. That is even without making the argument that FPTP doesn't actually work where multiple parties are polling within reach of each other.
monkeybarry
Nayim
A decision that may very well end up with the Greens in Gorton, and Reform in Mayerfied and getting the Manchester majoralty!
At what point do we remove the word United from the name of the country?!
WillWeEverBeGoodAgain
Johnny nice-tits
Be really funny if Labour & Burnham don't win the by-election
From BBC
The big one remains: can he win the seat?
At the general election two years ago Reform UK came second to Labour with about just under a third of the vote.
But at last week's elections, Makerfield - where Burnham would stand as MP - saw Reform hammer Labour, winning all 11 wards in and around half the vote in the constituency.
Nigel Farage has already said his party "will throw absolutely everything at it".
From BBC
The big one remains: can he win the seat?
At the general election two years ago Reform UK came second to Labour with about just under a third of the vote.
But at last week's elections, Makerfield - where Burnham would stand as MP - saw Reform hammer Labour, winning all 11 wards in and around half the vote in the constituency.
Nigel Farage has already said his party "will throw absolutely everything at it".
Would be hilarious if he didn't win.
What's his plan anyway, get elected and bide his time for a few months then launch a leadership bid - he can't radically change much if it wasn't in the manifesto and the calls for a general election would be huge. I mean he wasn't even an MP at the election so can't really just come in with a radically different vision that has no mandate.
You would bet on reform pulling an upset. And then the clamour for an immediate GE will be loud. Interesting times ahead
Let's see what standards committee says.
If Green didn't field a candidate they would be doing the right thing for the country if you really want to stop the Reform surge. And it's is a real surge now. Tangible.