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harr1984 said:
People are talking as if it's just Spurs who suffer from poor refereeing decisions.

The refs and VAR are brick, all clubs suffer from it - there's not some anti Spurs refereeing bias going on....
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I’m in the ‘we’ve been terrible, but also the refereeing has been terrible to us’ camp.

Is there another team that has had so many examples of crazy things going their way? Or the interpretation on an action changing week to week and we just happen to always be on the wrong side of it?

I don’t think it’s intentional, but I do think subconscious bias is at play. The narrative is that we’re falling and a lot of subjective decisions are given in line with that narrative.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
I’m in the ‘we’ve been terrible, but also the refereeing has been terrible to us’ camp.

Is there another team that has had so many examples of crazy things going their way? Or the interpretation on an action changing week to week and we just happen to always be on the wrong side of it?

I don’t think it’s intentional, but I do think subconscious bias is at play. The narrative is that we’re falling and a lot of subjective decisions are given in line with that narrative.
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This is slightly out of date now, but we are nowhere near the most affected by poor refs/var

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VAR errors increase - every mistake so far in 2025-26 Premier League

The Premier League's KMI Panel makes judgements on every key decisions. Here's what they say the VAR has got wrong.
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A more up to date version

 
Legohamster said:
They really are not, they are just poor. Poor for everyone

Our mistakes are going to send us down, not the refs
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I think that's too simple a perspective. Take the Scum game, I fully expected a battering but the game turned on poor decisions, the disallowed goal and failure to send of Gabriel for taking down the last man. Equally, Brobbey. That's cost us somewhere between 1 and 6 points but even if it's just 1 it could be difference between relegation and survival.
 
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Penwith Pete said:
I think that's too simple a perspective. Take the Scum game, I fully expected a battering but the game turned on poor decisions, the disallowed goal and failure to send of Gabriel for taking down the last man. Equally, Brobbey. That's cost us somewhere between 1 and 6 points but even if it's just 1 it could be difference between relegation and survival.
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That Gabriel challenge wouldn't be a red card, it's not last man = red anymore.

Brobbey should have been off, but we were 1-0 at the time (from memory) in a game we should have been winning.

If Vicario could catch a simple cross v West Ham and we draw, we are not in the relegation zone.

I'm just not buying into it being more than the standard PL reffing
 
Legohamster said:
That Gabriel challenge wouldn't be a red card, it's not last man = red anymore.

Brobbey should have been off, but we were 1-0 at the time (from memory) in a game we should have been winning.

If Vicario could catch a simple cross v West Ham and we draw, we are not in the relegation zone.

I'm just not buying into it being more than the standard PL reffing
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The Gabriel challenge would be a red. It's only not a red if the player makes a genuine attempt to play the ball, Gabriel didn't.
 
Legohamster said:
That Gabriel challenge wouldn't be a red card, it's not last man = red anymore.

Brobbey should have been off, but we were 1-0 at the time (from memory) in a game we should have been winning.

If Vicario could catch a simple cross v West Ham and we draw, we are not in the relegation zone.

I'm just not buying into it being more than the standard PL reffing
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Brobbey should have been off well before the push on Romero. But anyway, let's just agree that we've been fudging dreadful all season!
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
I’m in the ‘we’ve been terrible, but also the refereeing has been terrible to us’ camp.

Is there another team that has had so many examples of crazy things going their way? Or the interpretation on an action changing week to week and we just happen to always be on the wrong side of it?

I don’t think it’s intentional, but I do think subconscious bias is at play. The narrative is that we’re falling and a lot of subjective decisions are given in line with that narrative.
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We have brick decisions go against us and place more weight on those and remember them more. You could go over to any other clubs forum and find their fans on a weekly basis going on about the same thing.

The idea that we are getting more decisions go against us because of who we are and our predicament is proper cringeworthy stuff. If we didn't have so many dumb players making so many dumb decisions on a weekly basis then we wouldn't be where we are positionally or with decisions that refs have to make ....
 
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