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Who should be in the Tottenham Hotspur Mt.Rushmore?

Who should be on the Tottenham Hotspur Mt Rushmore

  • Ron Burgess

  • Bill Nicholson

  • Danny Blanchflower

  • Jimmy Greaves

  • Steve Perryman

  • Glenn Hoddle

  • Gary Mabbutt

  • Ledley King

  • Harry Kane

  • Son Heung Min

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If it were just players/managers from my time supporting then it would have to be
Burkinshaw
Hoddle
Kane

and the 4th is tough. Probably Perryman.

But longer term Nicholson has to be there. And Greaves.
So
Nicholson
Greaves
Hoddle
Kane

But too many left out. Bloody stupid game 😂
 
billyiddo said:
Not really - the argument for him being in is that he is the best goalscorer in our entire history. Son won one trophy, we have many players who have won more and who have won an equal or bigger trophy so why does he get in ahead of any of those players? Kane stands alone at the top of our goal scoring charts - that's a unique thing. Hoddle I can see an argument for the best 'Spurs' player - he typifies the style of player we love more than any other i guess
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Kane left the first opportunity he could and he tried to leave earlier to go to Emirates Marketing Project. Not that I blame him, but Son staying when he could have agitated for a move and winning a trophy on top of it puts him above Kane IMO.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Kane left the first opportunity he could and he tried to leave earlier to go to Emirates Marketing Project. Not that I blame him, but Son staying when he could have agitated for a move and winning a trophy on top of it puts him above Kane IMO.
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You think the first opportunity Kane had to leave was 11 years after making his debut?
 
The understandable but modern bias on this is amazing.

Love Son but he doesn't make it into the top 10 all-timers IMO let alone on to Mt Rushmore. If we are rewarding 'loyalty' then Perryman, Mabbutt and King all stand for more.

Perryman holds the record for appearances - is that less worthy, given he was a defender mainly than a goalscorung record?

You compare the achievements of the last 30 years to any other point in our history and it comes up well short in both quality and achievements - that is on the players, managers and management. Yes it is a different world post-1992 but Spurs are only a 'big club' due to the 50s to 80s and not for anything since. That should be reflected in the true legends of the club.

Kane is a record holder and an amazing player who stayed loyal to the club through thick and thin until it came to a crossroads where he was about the only thing keeping us above water but he could have easily agitated and sulked a la Eriksen, Berbatov and many others but he and the team came up short too often in crunch moments. He is worthy of being in the conversation but to Rushmore someone in my mind is for those people to have made Tottenham more than when they arrived - Arthur Rowe, Billy Nic, Danny Blanchflower, Dave Mackay, Keith Burkinshaw would probably be the ones on my list and that ignores the first 7 decades of the club. Jinking Jimmy Dimmock anyone?
 
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Lost Mango said:
The understandable but modern bias on this is amazing.

Love Son but he doesn't make it into the top 10 all-timers IMO let alone on to Mt Rushmore. If we are rewarding 'loyalty' then Perryman, Mabbutt and King all stand for more.

Perryman holds the record for appearances - is that less worthy, given he was a defender mainly than a goalscorung record?

You compare the achievements of the last 30 years to any other point in our history and it comes up well short in both quality and achievements - that is on the players, managers and management. Yes it is a different world post-1992 but Spurs are only a 'big club' due to the 50s to 80s and not for anything since. That should be reflected in the true legends of the club.

Kane is a record holder and an amazing player who stayed loyal to the club through thick and thin until it came to a crossroads where he was about the only thing keeping us above water but he could have easily agitated and sulked a la Eriksen, Berbatov and many others but he and the team came up short too often in crunch moments. He is worthy of being in the conversation but to Rushmore someone in my mind is for those people to have made Tottenham more than when they arrived - Arthur Rowe, Billy Nic, Danny Blanchflower, Dave Mackay, Keith Burkinshaw would probably be the ones on my list and that ignores the first 7 decades of the club. Jinking Jimmy Dimmock anyone?
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Great post. I would say Kane agitated though. There was the entire Emirates Marketing Project saga of him staying in Miami and not returning for pre-season and even when he came back he never got back to his previous levels crossing the white line. Ledders was a one club man but probably because of his injuries. I have a feeling he would have moved on like my idol Hoddle did. That broke my heart in 87.

As for Jimmy, my dad was born in 1939 and was brought up in Edmonton. Dimmock was a legend in the place after his 1921 heroics. Interestingly, when dad was in hospital and almost lost his life, his SP02 levels dropped and he dropped into a delirious state. I was bedside in hospital and he started talking about Dimmock. His brain had obviously took him back to childhood memories of all the kids looking up to Dimmock. Luckily dad survived that scary episode and is a fit and well 86 year old today.

The Dimmock story is a sad one though. He had no money with 11 kids, was evicted from his home and in later life had both legs amputated. He had to sell his medals to get by during the tougher times and be a labourer on building sites.
This is a nicely put together article - https://readtheleague.com/the-big-feature/local-hero

I'm not saying Dimmock was a saint, but these modern millionaire footballers really don't lead the same life.
 
billyiddo said:
You think the first opportunity Kane had to leave was 11 years after making his debut?
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Kane would have had an opportunity every year of his career. Is that point though? When you operate at that incredibly talented level there's always a suitor.

It's whether you operate with class in that incredibly tough situation is the defining factor for me in the Mt Rushmore conversation. It's why he was second draft for me. Appointing your brother, Charlie (Big Spuds) Kane to line the family pockets and having the naivety to believe he could operate as a super-agent without any reputation was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. Playing the "we had a gentlemen's agreement" card in a highly contracted industry is as naive as it gets. Not getting on a plane when your contracted club has a new manager and turning up a week late for pre-season. I mean, what exactly was Harry thinking? Now it's clear that Harry wasn't born with a massive IQ. No problem with that, but you still need to keep your class about you. This was all putty in Levy's hands in my mind.

Still one of my favourite players in his formative years though. He was a breath of fresh air when he turned up the scene. As people know, my admiration for Harry wained for club and country over time. Nothing to do with football ability though.
 
Jurgen the German said:
First chance when a bigger/better club at the time made their interest known yes. He put himself in the shop window when Emirates Marketing Project were flirting with the idea of bidding for him.
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I didn’t even care he came out with the interview but to do it with Roland Rat was a crime
 
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