tommysvr
Steve Carr
This one still haunts me as well. Would have gone 2-0 up, instead lost 2-1. Poch sacked a couple of months later.
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This one still haunts me as well. Would have gone 2-0 up, instead lost 2-1. Poch sacked a couple of months later.
stratnumberone
Erik Edman
I remember that one. Didn’t they say that he was 7mm off side? As if the technology is accurate enough to measure to 7mm. WALOB!This one still haunts me as well. Would have gone 2-0 up, instead lost 2-1. Poch sacked a couple of months later.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Dimitar Berbatov
I suppose PGMOL would say it's more accurate than the officals who couldn't see our goal v United was about a yard over the line or that Vertonghen was 5 yards in his own half when ruled offside.
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
I guess there is two ways of looking at this.
Personally, I’m more concerned about all of the goals that have stood where the player was millimetres offside.
How many stats and league tables have been skewed by those mistakes…
stratnumberone
Erik Edman
Indeed. But in a world in which even multi-million $ PGMs aren’t accurate to less than about 10 feet, why has the EPL kittend itself out to a technology which pretends to uphold standards that are clearly Impossible?
Actually I know the answer to that: it involves multi-million $
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
Because officiating mistakes were getting so much media attention and fan complaints.
MartyFunkhouser
Steve Sedgley
Just get rid, its fcukign awful
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Dimitar Berbatov
Officials will always make mistakes and I believe the idea was to help them with difficult decisions, I like most thought it would be use for clear and obvious errors but this seems to have been become a subjective call along with the decisions of a group of officials.
To my mind that leads to a major problem, we on here can rarely reach a decision we can all agree on and are bias, how can we expect this group of allegedly unbias colleagues (mates) reach the right call any better than us?
It's not helped as many incidents do not seem to checked for reasons that change like the weather. The interpretation and implementation of the laws of the game seem to change more in the short period it has been in place have changed more than they had in my lifetime, does anyone know with certainty what is or is not enough contact for a penalty or what is a natural position for a defender to attempt a tackle or block?
The general understandig was that VAR would bring transparency, consistency and an elimination or errors, In practice it has bought confusion, controversy and mistrust.
parklane1
Teddy Sheringham
ricky2tricky4city
Chris Jones
I think if we are keeping it we should just go the NFL route, say allow 2 coach challenges per coach per game. Puts the onus on the teams to decide if they think there's an error/wrongdoing. Just accept the refereeing beyond that. If they get something wrong then it's your fault you didn't challenge...you had the opportunity. Also limits the amount of var interruptions
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Dimitar Berbatov
I agree with the challenge element but we would still have the subjective decision made by a committee of refs colleagues. Where is the exact point of a defenders arm that is a handball or the height of a tackle on a leg to be dangerous, the force of a push or tug on shirt to be a foul? There is no consistency not just with different refs or VAR but the same ref will give different decisions for similar situations in a game.
When I played offside was when a player was ahead of the defender when pass was made not 5cm of any part of their body.
There need to review the whole system and come back with something the players, managers and fans can trust and an independent body running it.
thfcsteff
Ralph Coates
Agreed mate, I've wanted this for years.
ricky2tricky4city
Chris Jones
In respects of offside....it's a line call (generally) ...so I have no problem with technology deciding that. And to satisfy your complaint you can move that line anywhere you want if you want to favour the attacker more.
Many decisions are subjective by there very nature and we have to let the officials decide, simply based on who else are we going to let decide?. My system at least gives some power to the coach to 'force' a review.
Think there initially has to be an acceptance there is no perfect solution.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Dimitar Berbatov
I'd rather the technology was used to measure daylight between opponents than the cm of body parts.
I played over 20 years as a defender and even in that time I disliked using offside as a tactic, a defender is relying on the officials to do their job and if you didn't get the flag it was your fault.
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
There is always a perfect solution, if you take the right measurements.
ricky2tricky4city
Chris Jones
That's what I said...we can move the line so it requires the forward to have 100% daylight between him and the defender to be offside if you want
ricky2tricky4city
Chris Jones
Yes, for everything that requires measurements. What about the rest?
Baleforce
Chris Waddle
At the end of the day, everything is just physics.