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American politics

I think Michelle Obama could get elected. She’s definitely more electable IMO than Kamala and Hilary. Just out of interest, did you think Kamala was a good candidate? I just completely disagree with the implication that she only lost because America is racist. Even her book title makes her come across like a victim. I’ve not read it, but from the reviews I’ve seen there’s barely an acknowledgment that she did anything wrong. For example, like going on SNL a few days before the election. Most of the people that watch that show be democrats, what’s the point of going on a show where you know the votes are in the bag already? Why not go on Joe Rogan? He’s got the biggest podcast audience in the world. From all accounts he did invite her on the show. To use a football analogy, it’s a bit like wanting to win the premier league but refusing to play an away game. Go on his show and try and win people over.

I do have perspective, I want the democrats to win elections as long as the republicans don’t believe in democracy or climate change. That doesn’t mean that I’m blind to the flaws that the democrats have. They’re seen as the party of no common sense. Was Hilary’s “deplorables” comment accurate? Probably, but by saying it you’re throwing votes away. Katie Porter had the same attitude in a recent interview, someone asked her what she needs to do to win over the people that voted for Trump and her attitude was why would I have to win those people over, I don’t need them. It’s not a great attitude to have IMO. That’s why I’d prefer a Gavin Newsom type to win as he seems more willing to engage with the other side.
Harris and Hillary were perfectly electable candidates when compared to Trump. I'm up to my oxters in work at the moment but I will come back on this at the weekend (remind me if I don't). I'll mostly be banging on about the wildly different standards dems and repubs are held to (Murc's Law).
 
Harris and Hillary were perfectly electable candidates when compared to Trump. I'm up to my oxters in work at the moment but I will come back on this at the weekend (remind me if I don't). I'll mostly be banging on about the wildly different standards dems and repubs are held to (Murc's Law).
Oxters, I've never known anyone outside of Scotland know what they are.
My Oxters are more electable than trump, that doesn't mean Hillary or Harris are good candidates.
 
Harris and Hillary were perfectly electable candidates when compared to Trump. I'm up to my oxters in work at the moment but I will come back on this at the weekend (remind me if I don't). I'll mostly be banging on about the wildly different standards dems and repubs are held to (Murc's Law).

Clearly not judging by the margins they lost by. I am by no means a fan of Trump, but given who he was running against I can see why people voted for him. I think Americans would elect the right woman candidate. They just didn’t like those two women who ran.
 
I can't see why anyone anywhere ever would vote for a corrupt, racist sex, abuser.

Because they think the people who run the other party are nuts. Not saying I agree with those people but if you’re selling popcorn and the other party are selling dog brick, shouldn’t you ask why more people bought dog brick? When you lose by such a wide margin you have to think it’s got to be at least partly your fault and not everyone else.
 
Clearly not judging by the margins they lost by. I am by no means a fan of Trump, but given who he was running against I can see why people voted for him. I think Americans would elect the right woman candidate. They just didn’t like those two women who ran.
Small margins. Hillary lost by about 40k votes in the end and won the popular vote by millions.
 
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