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glasgowspur said:
We've all seen reports presented with the evidence being "people stopped in the street".
That's not proof of anything other than what that handful of people believe.
If they were Corbyn would be PM, Scotland would be independent and the UK would still be in the EU.
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I wonder what the world would be like if all that had happened
 
kb 1984 said:
So it's not 9 out of 10 it's 60% you are making it up as you go along how many people were interviewed 10, 20 or even a1000 out of nine million Israelis
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No, I'm not making it up as I go. When Jamal Wolasmal, and others have been asking people on the streets and in different areas of Israel, it has always been in the region of 8 to 9 out of 10, at different times and at different stages of the war, so it's pretty safe to say that it's a majority!!! As no one has asked the entire population, there isn't an exact number to present, that's why I said 'vast majority' which is >60%.
 
If it was another country other than Israel that were doing what they are doing, let's say Irak, Kasakhstan or whatever, they'd be flattened and bombed back to the stone age. That's a fact.
 
Kandi1977 said:
No, I'm not making it up as I go. When Jamal Wolasmal, and others have been asking people on the streets and in different areas of Israel, it has always been in the region of 8 to 9 out of 10, at different times and at different stages of the war, so it's pretty safe to say that it's a majority!!! As no one has asked the entire population, there isn't an exact number to present, that's why I said 'vast majority' which is >60%.
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Your figures don't add up so maybe 300 400 people interviewed out of 9 mill. Let's say 4 million Israelis out of 9 million don't agree with there government are you willing to wipe them off the planet. If so it makes you just as bad as Israel Hamas Hezbollah.
 
kb 1984 said:
I wonder what the world would be like if all that had happened
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The first wouldn't work, I mean the guy was totally unfit for leadership. Considering how bad the last tranche of political leaders have been and he's still easily one of the worst speaks volumes.
Scottish independence is only still on the discussion because the SNP won't actually discuss it. Should they ever actually put out what it would entail only the absolute hard core eejits vote for it.
EU vote was a disaster for all concerned and nothing but an example of how self involved and tone deaf the political class are.
 
Kandi1977 said:
I'm not one for violence, but it's becoming more and more clear that the only solution would be to wipe out Israel completely.
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No dude that’s not right at all. Israel has every right to exist, as does an independent Palistine.

What needs to happen is that the Israeli government needs to be taken into account for their actions, sanctions should be applied at the very minimum just like on Russia . they should be held to the same standards as every other country, this for whatever reason doesn’t seem to be the case.

But to say ‘wipe them out’ is disgusting and unjustifiable.
 
Mikey10 said:
WW2 vibes there. A dreadful thing to say.
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It is, but they'll never stop. They've been murdering, plundering and unlawfully taking over territory for the best part of 75 years. At some point this got to end, before they've viped out everyone else in the area, because they certainly ain't stopping themselves!

They're quick to play the Holocaust card whenever something goes against them, and Holocaust was horrible and probably the worst of human behaviour in previous history, but they're just as bad, if not worse themselves.
Ghods people my ass!
 
DTA said:
No dude that’s not right at all. Israel has every right to exist, as does an independent Palistine.

What needs to happen is that the Israeli government needs to be taken into account for their actions, sanctions should be applied at the very minimum just like on Russia . they should be held to the same standards as every other country, this for whatever reason doesn’t seem to be the case.

But to say ‘wipe them out’ is disgusting and unjustifiable.
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And just like Russia with 2014 borders, sanctions need to be in place till Israel retreats to 1967 borders. Then the UN can guard long-term to make sure both sides have security.
 
LutonSpurs said:
The US and Israel won't allow that. Europe will stay silent. The Arabs will do the same.
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It will happen one day - Israel have shred every ounce of goodwill they ever had around the world. Germany turning against them has been big, and America will eventually have a Democrat president who isn't on the Friends of Israel payroll. National self determination always wins out in the end, however much empires try to cling on
 
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Gutter Boy said:
It will happen one day - Israel have shred every ounce of goodwill they ever had around the world. Germany turning against them has been big, and America will eventually have a Democrat president who isn't on the Friends of Israel payroll. National self determination always wins out in the end, however much empires try to cling on
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A US leader not on AIPAC money is unlikely.
 
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This thread just goes to show that there are arseholes in every race, religion, faith, belief. Sadly there will never be a answer because not many will accept just that.

Just to make it clear i am not having a go at ANY race, religion.
 
parklane1 said:
This thread just goes to show that there are arseholes in every race, religion, faith, belief. Sadly there will never be a answer because not many will accept just that.

Just to make it clear i am not having a go at ANY race, religion.
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Empires always collapse. They are not sustainable. Look what happened to the Eastern Bloc and USSR. All the grimness over decades of the Berlin Wall and Prague Spring etc. But almost everywhere got their national self determination, save a few small pockets of Russian rear-guard in Moldovia, Georgia, Chechnya and now Ukraine. The Kurds, Palestinians, Uyghurs and Tibetans will eventually have their day.
 
parklane1 said:
This thread just goes to show that there are arseholes in every race, religion, faith, belief. Sadly there will never be a answer because not many will accept just that.

Just to make it clear i am not having a go at ANY race, religion.
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It's sad that people just can't be decent level humans.

Don't hate Jews
Don't hate Arabs
Don't be a cnut.

Although over simplistic it's better than picking a side and being horrible
 
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