Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Gazza]

Unfortunately I've met Tommy Robinson in person and can tell you without doubt he is a fully fledged racist

I didn’t want to mention it but I met him also at a rally with Sikhs about how their children were groomed back in the 90’s. My friends a Sikh and wanted to go, and we bumped into him. And I pressed him hard about radical racist views.

 

[Gazza]

but @Gazza has watched some selective videos and now knows “deep down he is not a racist”

No get a grip, you know him personally to judge him along with the mainstream media obviously

 

[Gazza]

So I’ll give you my story and I’ll let it be there.

My mum was born into a Pakistani Muslim family and married my father who was a non religious Sikh.

The amount of abuse my father, mother had to go through back then was unreal. We have had bricks thrown through our window, death threats and family members on mums side trying to set me and my siblings off against my mum and ensure that we follow Islam.

The police did nothing. It was my father’s side who essentially got together to protect us. I won’t go into details but I’ve got a deeper understanding about it than most here.

 

[Grays_1890]

I didn’t want to mention it but I met him also at a rally with Sikhs about how their children were groomed back in the 90’s. My friends a Sikh and wanted to go, and we bumped into him. And I pressed him hard about radical racist views.

Ok and seriously, no jibe or dig, but what rationale was there IYO for publishing that photo of the black guy playing with kids? What would be the idea and motivation of that? In your very honest opinion?

 

[Gazza]

Ok and seriously, no jibe or dig, but what rationale was there IYO for publishing that photo of the black guy playing with kids? What would be the idea and motivation of that? In your very honest opinion?

I don’t know and wasn’t aware of that incident. But wrong.

Like I said I don’t know if Tommy is racist as I’ve seen shades of it most of my life. I still don’t hate Muslims, but Islamism is not fit for democracy and freedom of speech. Democracy and freedom of speech is the only thing I care about.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

you think that's the 3 reasons to fly a flag in your head. I don't personally fly a flag at any time. I haven't even ever bought or worn an England football shirt. But you are projecting your own thought processes into a judgement on other people.

I don't fly a flag either, much like most people.
Add to the reasons someone might fly a flag if you'd like to contribute rather than your psychobabble nonsense. Or maybe directly answer why you think the flag craze kicked off?.

 

[scaramanga]

you think that's the 3 reasons to fly a flag in your head. I don't personally fly a flag at any time. I haven't even ever bought or worn an England football shirt. But you are projecting your own thought processes into a judgement on other people.

I own an England cricket shirt. Does that count?

 

[LutonSpurs]

So I’ll give you my story and I’ll let it be there.

My mum was born into a Pakistani Muslim family and married my father who was a non religious Sikh.

The amount of abuse my father, mother had to go through back then was unreal. We have had bricks thrown through our window, death threats and family members on mums side trying to set me and my siblings off against my mum and ensure that we follow Islam.

The police did nothing. It was my father’s side who essentially got together to protect us. I won’t go into details but I’ve got a deeper understanding about it than most here.

You have trauma from Muslims and blame all of us. That's racism lad. We don't all do that. Your approach to your experience is one of angee but it's unfair to blame all Muslims.

And my Sikh mates from Shere Punjab Southall crew would absolutely call you a racist. I am old enough to have seen the battles between Pakaitani jatts and Sikh jatts. I'm also a Jatt. Pure Jatt. You don't represent us with your hate.

 

[Gazza]

You have trauma from Muslims and blame all of us. That's racism lad. We don't all do that. Your approach to your experience is one of angee but it's unfair to blame all Muslims.

And my Sikh mates from Shere Punjab Southall crew would absolutely call you a racist. I am old enough to have seen the battles between Pakaitani jatts and Sikh jatts. I'm also a Jatt. Pure Jatt. You don't represent us with your hate.

lol read what you will. I’ve clearly said that I do not hate Muslims. Can you not read that a few more times before it goes into your brain?

I don’t agree with Islamists and Islamism how does that make me a racist? How is not agreeing with a theology make me a racist? So if I disagree with some fantasy it makes me racist? Since when is a theology a race? Make me laugh honestly I can’t stop laughing.

I wouldn’t think I could represent anyone but myself.

 

[LutonSpurs]

lol read what you will. I’ve clearly said that I do not hate Muslims. Can you not read that a few more times before it goes into your brain?

I don’t agree with Islamists and Islamism how does that make me a racist? How is not agreeing with a theology make me a racist? So if I disagree with some fantasy it makes me racist? Since when is a theology a race? Make me laugh honestly I can’t stop laughing.

I wouldn’t think I could represent anyone but myself.

I read what you wrote. So did a bunch of other people who aren't lacking in basic comprehension skills. You have a massive problem with Pakistani Muslims. And it's your issue. Everyone who reads your posts can see it. I hope you find peace. And if you ever come to Luton you can meet my sikh mates who stood shoulder to shoulder with me when the EDL came to town. They aren't brainwashed like you.

 

[Gazza]

I read what you wrote. So did a bunch of other people who aren't lacking in basic comprehension skills. You have a massive problem with Pakistani Muslims. And it's your issue. Everyone who reads your posts can see it. I hope you find peace. And if you ever come to Luton you can meet my sikh mates who stood shoulder to shoulder with me when the EDL came to town. They aren't brainwashed like you.

Again I do not have a massive problem.

I cannot see myself ever coming to Luton, it’s definitely not on my list of places to visit.

I’m not brainwashed, but I have my opinions on Islamism and Islamists. And yes i think people who follow religion lack intelligence.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Again I do not have a massive problem.

I cannot see myself ever coming to Luton, it’s definitely not on my list of places to visit.

I’m not brainwashed, but I have my opinions on Islamism and Islamists. And yes i think people who follow religion lack intelligence.

OK. People who follow Tommy lack intelligence too. You being one of them. Massive generalization from me but im only mimicking your nonsensical reasoning for your bigotry.

 

[Grays_1890]

Again I do not have a massive problem.

I cannot see myself ever coming to Luton, it’s definitely not on my list of places to visit.

I’m not brainwashed, but I have my opinions on Islamism and Islamists. And yes i think people who follow religion lack intelligence.

ON that basis though you have to go for them all based on their issues. Catholicism and Christianity has massive issue with similar stories, its not as extreme here as maybe in America but it happens and is largely more sophisticated at covering it up.

 

[Grays_1890]

OK. People who follow Tommy lack intelligence too. You being one of them. Massive generalization from me but im only mimicking your nonsensical reasoning for your bigotry.

Even his own mates tucked him up by realising those videos of his racist slurs.

You can't look at what he did to that guy playing with his grandchildren and say its anything else that racism.............No one came running to the defence of that guy like they are TR, which is also HUGELY telling

 

[Gazza]

OK. People who follow Tommy lack intelligence too. You being one of them. Massive generalization from me but im only mimicking your nonsensical reasoning for your bigotry.

If that makes you feel better about the issues I have about Islamism and Islamists then crack on.

I don’t follow Tommy Robinson, like I’ve said. GHod it’s like flogging a dead horse with you. You seem to have tunnel vision.

So can you tell me how I am racist about disagreeing with a theology.

You got to be even stupider if you believe some of the codswallop written in religion.

 

[Gazza]

ON that basis though you have to go for them all based on their issues. Catholicism and Christianity has massive issue with similar stories, its not as extreme here as maybe in America but it happens and is largely more sophisticated at covering it up.

Absolutely I disagree with any idiot that thinks they are more deserving because they follow some story. But I will say I probably won’t get beheaded or killed if I disagreed with Jesus and Christian’s.

 

[Gazza]

Even his own mates tucked him up by realising those videos of his racist slurs.

You can't look at what he did to that guy playing with his grandchildren and say its anything else that racism.............No one came running to the defence of that guy like they are TR, which is also HUGELY telling

I agree if that was the story then it’s stupidity at its finest

 

[Grays_1890]

Absolutely I disagree with any idiot that thinks they are more deserving because they follow some story. But I will say I probably won’t get beheaded or killed if I disagreed with Jesus and Christian’s.

Scientology might give you a hard time.

All religions though have had their day in the sun with extremism and still do IMO, just depends where in the world we are talking about.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Absolutely I disagree with any idiot that thinks they are more deserving because they follow some story. But I will say I probably won’t get beheaded or killed if I disagreed with Jesus and Christian’s.

Lol. You actually are a parody. I think you should get out of your basement more often

 

[Gazza]

Lol. You actually are a parody. I think you should get out of your basement more often

Brilliant.

So please tell me how laughing and disagreeing with stupid made up stories is racist? Since this is what you replied. Let’s see your mental gymnastics on this one too.

From my basement I’ve been looking at the moon miraculously split with my telescope. Just happened to see some weird donkey flying over. I think he was on his way to a place that wasn’t even built at the time. I’m the parody.