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Squad
- Thread starter The Fatman
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It's chelsea. We don't deal with them.
Bullet
Barry Daines
Nope, 13th
There is no way we would play 14th and 16th!
NaijaSpurs
Paul Walsh
I do not think home grown players is the problem in the CL. No, the problem is our lack of club trained players.
As said davies is counted as hg now anyway.
Can't do much about ct until our players grow up.
NaijaSpurs
Paul Walsh
Luke I said HG is not the problem, club grown is. Besides, I question whether Davies is good enough for the CL.
Hg is not a problem for cl. For pl we are short but ok as we have u21s.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
We don't - we've just loaned out the 9 most first team ready. Olusesi and Gunter are the only two left who have been anywhere near the adult squad.
NaijaSpurs
Paul Walsh
Name them?
braineclipse
George Hunt
Not academy U21s, the players under 21 who can go on the B list in the PL, but can't in the CL because of the UEFA rule that players must have been at the club for two years to be able to be on the B-list.
So Bergvall, Gray, Odobert etc go on the B-list in the PL meaning that we don't really have registration issues in the PL despite lacking club trained players.
Tel, odobert, gray, bergvall, takai, vuskovic.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
The B List is only for U21 players who have been at the club longer than 2 years. None of them have more than 1 year yet.
Muttley
Teemu Tainio
That's correct. Those 6 players all need to be in the A list.
If I'm looking around for B-listers, I only see Scarlett on our first team squad list (official website). The only U21s who have been with Ange are Olusesi, Hardy and King from memory.
I think you can actually see through implication that Spurs are going to give CL our best shot with the 1st team squad but don't have it as a priority over the league. With all of the 3-5 U21 players that could have strengthened the B-list being sent out on loan, we've chosen the long game. Devine and Donley are examples.
I don't think there is any major expectation on Frank to get to the knockout stages. There is a bigger expectation to try and get 5th place in the league.
For uefa comps? The list posted earlier in the thread had them on the b list for prem.
This was the list.
They were on the b list last season.
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Muttley
Teemu Tainio
They were on the b list last season.
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What you talk about is the complexity of the 2 systems. PL don't really have a B-list. They just lump all the U21s in one big bucket. UEFA clearly do and that 2 year registration rule excludes them from B-list, and pushes them back into A.
UEFA are basically saying that you can nick U21's from either your or another football association but they have to be treated like your non-homegrown 1st teamers.
So Spurs end up with something like 6 U21s that are free-picks in PL but have to compete with the senior players for the 17 places in the UEFA A-list.
Hence why i said we were short on hg in the prem but it's ok as we had u21s.
Muttley
Teemu Tainio
Yeah, the PL is bread and butter and is this season's priority.
With the club trained rules I think we will head into CL with a realistic squad of 22. Perhaps 23 with Scarlett as the only significant U21 B-lister. So something like 20 outfield players. That only has to drop by 3 outfield injuries and you're into the academy players to pad out the 20 man match day squad. That's not factoring in where Frank wants to rest and rotate players and leave them out altogether.
I think there is a high chance we will see a new crop of U21's in the CL squads this season. As you say though, not in the PL as probably not required.
braineclipse
George Hunt
From milo on the pod: (Ignoring Scarlett).
We can register 22 players on the A list (max 25, but 4 have to be club trained, we only have Austin). Three of them have to be goalkeepers so we're left with 19 outfield players. Two for every position except one position. 20 outfield players if you include Scarlett.
If we are going for two more attacking players as being linked with I struggle to see how we don't end up with players we can't register for Europe. Will be interesting to see who that ends up being.