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Population went up. Demand went up. Prices went up.
If the demand for cars went up. Then ford would get investment and open a new factory.
Household use is only about 3-5% of the water the country uses.
Ford invest in new factories so they can meet demand, sell more cars and make more money. Thames Water weren't going to make more money by investing huge amounts in infrastructure upgrades to increase capacity. Because the cost of water bills is capped.
 
Ford invest in new factories so they can meet demand, sell more cars and make more money. Thames Water weren't going to make more money by investing huge amounts in infrastructure upgrades to increase capacity. Because the cost of water bills is capped.

They signed up to it. It was up to them to make it work as agreed. If not sell. If they can't sell nationalise.
 
They signed up to it. It was up to them to make it work as agreed. If not sell. If they can't sell nationalise.
They did make it work as agreed. The agreement was to run it on behalf of the government at the status quo level and invest to modernise and build efficiency at a tactical local level. Strategic investment was not part of the deal.
 
They did make it work as agreed. The agreement was to run it on behalf of the government at the status quo level and invest to modernise and build efficiency at a tactical local level. Strategic investment was not part of the deal.

So why was thames water fined £122m? Yorkshire £47m? Northumbrisn £17m?
 
So why was thames water fined £122m? Yorkshire £47m? Northumbrisn £17m?
Because similarly to how private rail companies are fined when services are late, water companies are fined for sewerage discharges. That doesnt change the reality of why trains are late and sewerage gets discharged - the crumbling/aging architecture the infrastructures are built on the modernisation of which is outside the remit and ability of private operators to remedy.

Let's put this a different way: do you think if all these companies were nationalised that the discharges will stop? Even after say 10 years after nationalisation? Not without one of the biggest infrastructure projects ever undertaken in this country is the answer.
 
Because similarly to how private rail companies are fined when services are late, water companies are fined for sewerage discharges. That doesnt change the reality of why trains are late and sewerage gets discharged - the crumbling/aging architecture the infrastructures are built on the modernisation of which is outside the remit and ability of private operators to remedy.

Let's put this a different way: do you think if all these companies were nationalised that the discharges will stop? Even after say 10 years after nationalisation? Not without one of the biggest infrastructure projects ever undertaken in this country is the answer.

Not the criminals fault they commit crime. It's societies. They're the real victims.

Not for me.
 
They did make it work as agreed. The agreement was to run it on behalf of the government at the status quo level and invest to modernise and build efficiency at a tactical local level. Strategic investment was not part of the deal.
They made it work to the tune of starting out with zero debt to now running in the red at £17bn of debt (Thames). Furthermore, to your assertion of a 11m increase in population, let's say 3m of that live in the Thames water area...then I have 3m more customers paying me and I've not had to provide any major structural upgrades ie just plumbing them in to existing systems but happy to take their money.

I feel these companies have not taken their role seriously. For them it's all been a vehicle....and we know what for.
 
Because similarly to how private rail companies are fined when services are late, water companies are fined for sewerage discharges. That doesnt change the reality of why trains are late and sewerage gets discharged - the crumbling/aging architecture the infrastructures are built on the modernisation of which is outside the remit and ability of private operators to remedy.

Let's put this a different way: do you think if all these companies were nationalised that the discharges will stop? Even after say 10 years after nationalisation? Not without one of the biggest infrastructure projects ever undertaken in this country is the answer.
So, what are saying is, money is needed to be invested into infrastructure.
If only there was some £££ knocking about that could go towards that.....
 
The people of Epping (and beyond) protest to have migrants moved from a local hotel to another area.

Migrants are moved to another hotel in a different area.

Protesters : oh no, you can’t move them there, it’s better than the hotel here.
 
The people of Epping (and beyond) protest to have migrants moved from a local hotel to another area.

Migrants are moved to another hotel in a different area.

Protesters : oh no, you can’t move them there, it’s better than the hotel here.
Adam Brooks will be happy at least
 
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