Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Silly McSilly Face]

I think those issues are also magnified by countries wishing to 'develop'....and by continuation the needs and wants of their population increasing.

Not just 3rd would becoming developed world theres been an increased "consumerisation" driven by ease of online and digital marketing and payments. Every time Sharon impulse-buys a new pair of straighteners on klarna thats keeping the factories pumping smoke out in China....

 

[Gutter Boy]

I'm quite proud of what parliament has achieved this week with assisted dying and decriminalising abortion. Maybe for the first time since gay marriage in 2013, it feels like a tangible marker of social progress.

A good sign perhaps that this new generation of 2024 intake MPs are an improvement on their predecessors.

 

[LutonSpurs]

I'm quite proud of what parliament has achieved this week with assisted dying and decriminalising abortion. Maybe for the first time since gay marriage in 2013, it feels like a tangible marker of social progress.

A good sign perhaps that this new generation of 2024 intake MPs are an improvement on their predecessors.

Both important laws. Misunderstood by the same people who misunderstand most things.

 

[djp82]

Both important laws. Misunderstood by the same people who misunderstand most things.

That’s a sweeping generalisation. So people who don’t agree with a bill for various reasons on what is a complex piece of legislation and has various issues raised around the implications of how it’s delivered and safeguarded simply don’t understand it . So 291 mps and 100+ abstaining all simply don’t understand it.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Looks like the government are going to u-turn on abolishing the non-dom status and a bunch of other measures to stem the 2025 exodus in foreign investment and increase in borrowing that puts Reeves in danger of having to announce further tax rises or spending cuts in the autumn to stick within her fiscal rules....when ideology bites.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Looks like the government are going to u-turn on abolishing the non-dom status and a bunch of other measures to stem the 2025 exodus in foreign investment and increase in borrowing that puts Reeves in danger of having to announce further tax rises or spending cuts in the autumn to stick within her fiscal rules....when ideology bites.

Parasites gonna parasite

 

[LutonSpurs]

That’s a sweeping generalisation. So people who don’t agree with a bill for various reasons on what is a complex piece of legislation and has various issues raised around the implications of how it’s delivered and safeguarded simply don’t understand it . So 291 mps and 100+ abstaining all simply don’t understand it.

From my experience everyone I've come across who has been against both laws hadn't read the details. However there will be people who are principally opposed and I'm sorry for generalising. My mistake.

 

[LutonSpurs]

From my experience everyone I've come across who has been against both laws hadn't read the details. However there will be people who are principally opposed and I'm sorry for generalising. My mistake.

To be clear. The assisted dying bill I mean.

The abortion one is so important for women.

 

[DTA]

Article 2(4) of the UN Charter prohibits use or threat of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state. Article 51 does however allow use of force by a member state in self defence.
The established "Caroline Test" allows use of force in "preemptive self defence" (i.e. you dont have to wait for an aggressor to actually attack you before you are justified in using force).

Your argument is based on Israel being honest and correct on its assumption of the threat (particularly nuclear threat) of Iran.

Since something like 1992 BIBI has been saying that Iran is weeks away from a Nuclear weapon. They were not weeks away in 1992 were they? We can agree on that right?

BIBI stated that if Sadam was toppled that would be a major benefit to the world. Well that led to a million lives lost, boosted the rise of global terrorism and directly led to the rise of Isis. And at least to significant extent the refuge crisis. I think we can agree that he was wrong/lieing there right?

His government is on the brink of starving people in Gaza right now, and his government is talking openly about genocide or at the very least ethnic cleansing. That’s wrong, we agree on that right?

Now Hamas are cünts and what happened on October the 7th is disgraceful (not strong enough a word). but BIBI facilitated the funding of them (it’s documented) to undermine the Palestinian Athority and particularly the two state solution. We can agree he was wrong there right?

Now BIBI is in huge legal trouble in Israel, and there is an argument to be made that attacking Iran on the pretext of there nuclear capabilities- again something he has been claiming is weeks away since 1992 is beneficial to keeping him out of prison (and I’m not talking about internationally I’m talking in Israel).

Now you can and indeed do claim that Israel’s Intelligence is of remarkable standards and therefore we should believe them when they claim Iran is on the brink of Nuclear weapons (something that has been claimed since 1992) but they can be wrong right? Like they were wrong on October the 7th right? We agree on that right?

Now when you answer this. Please do address all the points raised.

And with this in mind, I just don’t want anyone to get involved in this conflict. Israel has decided to attack Iran… in my mind directly because of Bibi’s on selfish interest. Not even in Israel’s interests (it’s hurting its economy greatly). But they done it… so let them fight it out. That’s fair right?