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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 64 34.4%

  • Out

    Votes: 122 65.6%
  • Total voters
    186
Bedfordspurs said:
There are plenty of examples
The only think that may skew it would be the years where one team wins everything like we have seen

It’s cup football. It’s all about the one off
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There is no way we do what Palace do today in our form IMO and the reason for optimism on Wednesday is the otherside are atrocious

I'm massively optimistic on Wednesday but it's nothing to do with form or Ange
 
RigorMortis said:
I agree with this.
I don’t think he’s a good manager and at times( recently most of the time) his attitude also does not sit well with me.

Having said that I watched an interview with him on you tube with tnt sports, think it was this week and it resonated with me. He came across humble and a man who has dreams and aspirations like us all. This is a guy who has had to fight for recognition and respect and he has come very far. Fair play to that and for that I hope he wins the trophy as much for himself as for us and I can wish him well in that note.
We have mutually achievable goal and let’s hope we do it
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Nice to see acknowledgment of who he is as a person rather than some of the wildly assumptive character assassinations I have endured on here which have been fueled by nothing but anger; calling our manager a 'fat c unt' and 'a piece of s hit' is poor poor form...he is, as you said, a human being with hopes and dreams who has had quite a journey.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Of course but without going over old ground I think there are other things at play there also
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I don’t
I think people seem to think when we’re brick it’s the manager
And when we’re good it’s the players
You inferred it earlier
I’ve heard my mates say it
I think that’s daft myself
You have worked around food all clubs and know how they work
The manager leads the team
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I don’t
I think people seem to think when we’re brick it’s the manager
And when we’re good it’s the players
You inferred it earlier
I’ve heard my mates say it
I think that’s daft myself
You have worked around food all clubs and know how they work
The manager leads the team
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Not at all, I think the EL has proven with the long league campaign and those that progressed how the quality is below what we are navigating in the PL. People can argue otherwise and that's fine but Rangers are chronically bad and made the QFs, Bodo had some mystical stories written about them but their run was fairytale not all told quality and I think its hard to argue us and United are very good at the moment, so being in the final is hardly a reflection on the cups quality.

Before anyone jumps up and down I will say again, I'm loving being in the final and I will party like no other if we win. But I'm not believing its a masterstroke or the competition is deep like the PL, nor do I believe going into the final in our form, in another year would be a good thing.

I don't think any of that's outrageous TBH
 
Grays_1890 said:
Not at all, I think the EL has proven with the long league campaign and those that progressed how the quality is below what we are navigating in the PL. People can argue otherwise and that's fine but Rangers are chronically bad and made the QFs, Bodo had so mystical stories written about them but their run was fairytale not all told quality and I think its hard to argue us and United are very good at the moment, so being in the final is hardly a reflection on the cups quality.

Before anyone jumps up and down I will say again, I'm loving being in the final and I will party like no other if we win. But I'm not believing its a masterstroke or the competition is deep like the PL, nor do I believe going into the final in our form, in another year would be a good thing.

I don't think any of that's outrageous TBH
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It’s not as hard as the league
Said that last year when I booked the hotel
We had no excuses not making the final.
But we face down everything we needed to do, generally in such a professional way
That for me is really commendable because seeing a team like Bilbao go out so easy and they would have had a home final shows what can happen when you don’t
 
Bedfordspurs said:
It’s not as hard as the league
Said that last year when I booked the hotel
We had no excuses not making the final.
But we face down everything we needed to do, generally in such a professional way
That for me is really commendable because seeing a team like Bilbao go out so easy and they would have had a home final shows what can happen when you don’t
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And if we win Ange will get every props from be deserving.

I just don't believe alot of what's being levelled at times.

Anyway onwards
 
Bedfordspurs said:
What is being levelled?
He has done, as manager, all the right things in Europe
League… not the case
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I don't think the league form is explained away like its being suggested by some over the past 10 or so pages and never have done and neither do I believe the EL form is a masterstroke against that either.

I think the EL format and strength has meant we have navigated a weaker comp better than we have the PL, simply.
 
Grays_1890 said:
I don't think the league form is explained away like its being suggested by some over the past 10 or so pages and never have done and neither do I believe the EL form is a masterstroke against that either.

I think the EL format and strength has meant we have navigated a weaker comp better than we have the PL, simply.
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I disagree
mainly because we haven’t played the same players in both comps
If so, I’d agree
I do also believe that the players are protecting themselves in the league games
 
thfcsteff said:
Nice to see acknowledgment of who he is as a person rather than some of the wildly assumptive character assassinations I have endured on here which have been fueled by nothing but anger; calling our manager a 'fat c unt' and 'a piece of s hit' is poor poor form...he is, as you said, a human being with hopes and dreams who has had quite a journey.
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He is not a human being he is an Australian.
 
Grays_1890 said:
I don't think the league form is explained away like its being suggested by some over the past 10 or so pages and never have done and neither do I believe the EL form is a masterstroke against that either.

I think the EL format and strength has meant we have navigated a weaker comp better than we have the PL, simply.
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Is bang on the money. We are playing teams that are lower half of the championship standard it is the only reason we are where we are in Europe.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
You sound sceptical
I think our team believes
Just like palace did
We have won Europe games without any form
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From behind the couch again, the core of this team does belive we can win the EL, no stupid tweets, no taunting memes, it's all business.
That's down to ange IMHO.
I think we've had more talented squads/teams, I don't think we have had one that has the belief they can win something this one does.
His league form will rightly get him sacked, but I think there is some valuable work he has done behind the scenes that we will not see and appreciate until the process has moved on.
 
glasgowspur said:
From behind the couch again, the core of this team does belive we can win the EL, no stupid tweets, no taunting memes, it's all business.
That's down to ange IMHO.
I think we've had more talented squads/teams, I don't think we have had one that has the belief they can win something this one does.
His league form will rightly get him sacked, but I think there is some valuable work he has done behind the scenes that we will not see and appreciate until the process has moved on.
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I hope so
I believe so actually
 
Grays_1890 said:
I don't think the league form is explained away like its being suggested by some over the past 10 or so pages and never have done and neither do I believe the EL form is a masterstroke against that either.

I think the EL format and strength has meant we have navigated a weaker comp better than we have the PL, simply.
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So you don't rate Palace winning the FA Cup then?
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Is bang on the money. We are playing teams that are lower half of the championship standard it is the only reason we are where we are in Europe.
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So does that mean you're going to 'not' enjoy it if we win? Or not even enjoy the fact we got to the Final? Jesus, that's just silly...good job you didn't pay attention to the 83/84 run to the UEFA Cup. We played Drogheda, Feyenoord, Bayern Munich, Austria Vienna and Hajduk Split. Bayern finished 3rd in a one horse Bundesliga that season, Feyenoord were really the only decent side we faced as they walked their league, you could argue Austria Vienna were decent. Anderlecht reportedly bribed their way to the Final yet we barely barely beat them. I didnt give a f uck mate. I saw us win the UEFA Cup at White Hart Lane in person, and decades on, only a saddo like me would dredge up the route, in reaction to a saddo like you.

When we won the League Cup in 99? Brentford, Northampton, Liverpool, Man Utd and Wimbledon before beating Leicester.

And what about the 1991 FA Cup win over Forest? Before we beat the goons in the semi-final, we had knocked out the mighty Blackpool, Oxford, Pompey and Notts County!

Look, hold onto your grumble bunny if you like mate, but seriously, when it comes to cup competitions you can only beat whats in front of you, invariably you'll play some easy sides and some harder sides, and no-one gets to the final of a major European tournament playing 'lower half Championship standard' sides, that's just rubbish.
 
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