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Zaha

AdamB said:
Grealish sounds like he's joining, replacing GKN so thats +1 English player

If he falls through, can always call Dortmund about Sancho...
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Grealish looks down and dusted I agree

I’d also say with Toby off I’d be doing all the prep for Maguire

Get rid of sissoko for Zaha and we have improved all round IMO
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Grealish looks down and dusted I agree

I’d also say with Toby off I’d be doing all the prep for Maguire
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Toby out, de Ligt in is net 0 though, however I agree that Maguire would be a great signing. Just dont see them ever selling

Personally I think we really waste at least 1 overseas spot with having 3 foreign keepers. The 3rd choice will rarely ever play so why bother wasting a spot?
 
billyiddo said:
17 from these 19 then...

Lloris Vorm Gazzinga
Aurier Davies
Alderweierld Vertonghen Sanchez Foyth
Wanyama Dier Dembele
Son Eriksen Lamela Moura N'koudou
Llorente Janssen

no need for 3 foreign goalies, drop one of Vorm and Gazzinga, or both

Llorente Janssen N'koudou can all leave without issue

there you go, leaves us with 14/15
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We would need at least one English attacker/striker with your outgoings
 
Bedfordspurs said:
We would need at least one English attacker/striker with your outgoings
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unless i have misunderstood the post regarding 17 foreign players being allowed my outgoings would leave us with 14 or 15 foreign players in the squad, so room for a further 2 or 3 - why would attacking signings need to be English in that case?

it doesn't really sound like much of an issue if 17 is the max allowed and i haven't forgotten any in my list?

edit : forgot Sissoko :D
 
billyiddo said:
unless i have misunderstood the post regarding 17 foreign players being allowed my outgoings would leave us with 14 or 15 foreign players in the squad, so room for a further 2 or 3 - why would attacking signings need to be English in that case?

it doesn't really sound like much of an issue if 17 is the max allowed and i haven't forgotten any in my list?

edit : forgot Sissoko :D
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15 foreign in the CL I think
We had to take Foyth out the CL squad last year and lamela before Christmas
 
I understand we may have a issue with our English numbers, but spending 60 million on Zaha seems a excessive way to change that. He ( imo) is not worth spending that amount on.
 
The market is very different again this season

Richarlison for £50m says it all

Someone earlier said it well... all that matters is that if Poch wants him and we can get him then we should
 
Agreed, bin off Sissoko Jannsen Llorente Gazzaniga N'Koudou easy peasy... if pushed we could bin others like Aurier

Toby A might be going

Zaha looks like a handy player but his goals/assists stats are poor

Agree with Bjork that we can spend that kind of dosh much better elsewhere abroad



PS - what is the situation with buying South Americans nowadays? It used to be impossible in the UK so they would all go to Portugal/ Spain/ Italy... can we make use of our South American connections to grab talent? Is it still X% of Internationals in the last year or somesuch?
 
Some interesting arguments...

He is overpriced

Of course he is! So was Alisson... but I have yet to see a single bin dipper up in arms saying that they should not have signed him because of that. Paying over the odds is part and parcel of being a top 4 club. We need to live with it and embrace the new reality! If there is one thing I trust Levy is not to overstretch the club. If he sanctions the buy, it means we can afford it.

He does not produce enough goals or assists

Seriously? I mean really... seriously? The guy had the likes of Benteke, Townsend, Gayle as the players to assist! Have you seen those players in action and assessed their movement off the ball or awareness of space? Abysmal! FFS, this guy has single singlehandedly kept his club in the Premiership. Who can we think of in the past decade who did such a feat? And above all, he reserved some of his best games against the top 4. That tells me he is more than capable of making a further step up if surrounded by quality players.

We could get better (I think you mean cheaper) abroad.

Probably but at what risk? Is paying a 10mill premium worthwhile to get a proven Premiership acclimatised player? And who are these 60 mill world class players who would jump at joining us and who possess similar attributes as Zaha?

We have Moura so don't need Zaha

That is the most incredulous comment of all IMO. I would take it that these posters have never seen Moura play. The Brazilian is completely different from Zaha with the only thing they have in common is pace. Lucas will never be able to take on two or three players like Zaha can; nor can he beat his man (or two) from a standing start; his strengths lie elsewhere, predominantly in transition...

Above all, including Moura will have little effect against our biggest problem... teams playing for a 0-0 with two tight banks of four. Zaha, on the other hand, ticks all the boxes and will - most importantly - provide a new option for us...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ike-wilfried-zaha-could-final-piece-mauricio/

"Another route around the deep-lying defence is with a pacy dribbler to crack open the game. Beating one man and taking a piece off the chessboard can send a rearguard into chaos as they are forced to make quick adjustments. The lack of this profile of player is the one hole in an otherwise well-balanced, organised Tottenham collective."
 
parklane1 said:
I understand we may have a issue with our English numbers, but spending 60 million on Zaha seems a excessive way to change that. He ( imo) is not worth spending that amount on.
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Brereton for £10m would solve the same problem and he's more what we need (Kane cover rather than another AM)
 
Gutter Boy said:
Brereton for £10m would solve the same problem and he's more what we need (Kane cover rather than another AM)
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Again... seriously? Not that I would turn down such a move, mind you. The kid would be a great backup to Kane but to think that signing Brereton would give us the same effect as signing Zaha is just frankly ridiculous! The same corollary would have been Chelsea selling Hazard because they bought Giroud!!! :eek:
 
Gutter Boy said:
Brereton for £10m would solve the same problem and he's more what we need (Kane cover rather than another AM)
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Brereton isn’t deemed good enough for England under 21s currently

He has potential but needs game first

I’d suggest you watch him play for the under 19 s before commenting
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
Then... like who?

From what I can see we struggle to get players in at that level. Would Aubameyang have joined us? I suspect not.

We need next level players, but dont yet offer the kudos or wages to attract them.

So we are permanently caught in the cycle of looking for potential next level players, who often cost as much (or near) in fees but are affordable on wages and willing to join.

I cant argue, in general £60m gets you a lot - but specifically for Spurs?

£40m got us a rookie defender last year.
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There's top younger players in Germany like Brandt and Bailey who are similar to Sane type signings (when he moved) who I doubt would cost £70m.
 
Gazza said:
Probably could get both for zaha money combined
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Maybe they would but we need players who will deliver quality NOW. They sound like players that will still need a couple of seasons to fully adapt. We can’t continue with this cycle or we will forever not achieve anything. Keep signing players with potential will mean waiting a couple of years for them to fully deliver, which means in the meantime a couple of our top players will leave because we have still won nothing which in turn will set us back and we have to start all over again. Someone like Zaha is fully acclimatised, will deliver instantly and is a quality talent and threat. If we have to overpay a little then so be it....
 
harr1984 said:
Maybe they would but we need players who will deliver quality NOW. They sound like players that will still need a couple of seasons to fully adapt. We can’t continue with this cycle or we will forever not achieve anything. Keep signing players with potential will mean waiting a couple of years for them to fully deliver, which means in the meantime a couple of our top players will leave because we have still won nothing which in turn will set us back and we have to start all over again. Someone like Zaha is fully acclimatised, will deliver instantly and is a quality talent and threat. If we have to overpay a little then so be it....
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We have a strong attack as it is, we can afford to give a new signing in this area time to acclimatise
 
P.D. said:
There's top younger players in Germany like Brandt and Bailey who are similar to Sane type signings (when he moved) who I doubt would cost £70m.
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Brandt is brilliant
Technically excellent and deceptively quick
Bailey is more raw but hasn’t pace to burn
Both would be brilliant but that means more players to shift from the non English pot
Would be excellent signings though
 
Must say this thread reminds me of that of Ashley Young when he was about to move from Watford all those years ago... Identical comments at the time. Overpriced, no end product, not good enough for us....
 
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