Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Will add that Dier had a poor game but he was the only midfielder we had and he was up against two proper players in Moussa and Teilemans whereas to date Henderson hasn’t faced anyone
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World Cup 2018 Group G (Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England)
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parklane1
Tony Galvin
We have had this conversation before
Maybe he has not had the forwards to finish those killer balls off, with Kane in front of him those killer balls may pay off.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
We have had this conversation before
True
I’m all for having a more creative player in there but we are creating plenty at the moment
parklane1
Tony Galvin
True but then again we have not really faced anyone that good so far, Belgium may have caused us problems with their first team. I guess we will have to see how far we get and how well we do, i must admit i have been given more hope for progress then i thought we had. The first couple games i could see a plan but i guess we will see.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Rose to sort the left side and maybe bring in Rashford and were there now
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
It works if you're trying not to score.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
Loftus-Cheek needs elite coaching and to hohn his frame - similar to how Kane did his. There is a player there but he is raw. Alli all day right now. Rose was playing well until the goal where he got done (Delph was slack too) and sadly, that is a moment we cannot afford, so for me, as dirty as I feel saying this, Young starts. What I would say is both would be great to bring on for dynamics if we are under it. Otherwise Southgate knows. With regards to Dier, he was unlucky. Give him that attack and he would find passes all day...
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Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Deliberate or not, I can’t help feel we now have more pressure on us than might otherwise have been the case in terms of expectation.
If we can reach the QFS that will be a great success for me. Anything beyond that is a fantastic bonus.
If we can reach the QFS that will be a great success for me. Anything beyond that is a fantastic bonus.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
I thought Dele, being named on the bench (so presumably fit enough he), might have had a run out last night, even if only for 15 mins or so, given that he has really only played 45 minutes at full pace.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Young lost over half his defensive actions against Tunisia... rose was our best player against Belgium (all be it a weakened side)
Young is susceptible to a ball over the top or outside as he has no left foot
I know Ross was the man opposite the scorer yesterday but it was a great finish and he had his own midfielder stop (delph)
You hit the tickle my balls with a feather though with the Dier comment and imo it’s the same for anyone.., judge them with the better players in a settled team. It reminded me of our thrown together cuobsudes that are all miles better than the opposition but can’t string two passes together
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Yesterday was such a makeshift team that I hardly think it’s fair to judge anyone (agreeing with you). There’s no way in any game that vaguely mattered that yesterday’s starting 11 would have all featured together. I’m not convinced such wholesale changes were necessary, but if we can get past Colombia (not easy) then all will be forgotten.
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Even with the goal against Belgium against him, I'm struggling to see how Young is a better left back option than Rose. He has no left foot FFS and is playing in a world cup as a left back. We're unbalanced and frankly ineffective on one side.
Young's job is to defend whilst Trippier rjps the place up.
He'll do that as well as Rose but without the brainfarts or the attitude.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
And without the penetration and attacking intent. Don't think Rose has as many brainfarts as Walker, and his attitude on the pitch is fine.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Rose over Young all day for me
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
The same attitude and brainfarts, that saw him consistently be the best left back in the league, for 2015/6 & 2016/17 seasons. Granted this season he fudged things up but hes back to full fitness now and looks sharp to me.
If you need an attacking full back, yes.
I think Southgate has us set up to attack down one side and not overload when pushing forward. He seems to be using the space there to allow Lingard/Alli to use width and create more space in the middle for a defender (Maguire) to push up.
If he's only using one full back to attack then there's no contest between Rose and Trippier. That means our left back has to be better at defending first and foremost - I certainly wouldn't choose Rose for that role.
Young a good defender?
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