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What the pundits say

You also know that Liverpool who are total bricke are getting no stick about that fact or indeed is Klopp about the fact he seems to have made them worse, its all about the ticket prices.

It would be strange to give Klopp stick for the transfers made before he arrived. The sacking of Rodgers and the hiring of Klopp pretty much reset the timer and criticism will have to wait. If they're in a similar situation this time next season it will be a different story.

Interesting how they've suddenly taken a keen interest in ticket prices now that Liverpool fans have complained. Other clubs that have had similar issues in the past were mentioned, then forgotten. Yes, it's about selling papers/ads, but there are a lot of Liverpool fans working in the media. The fans of course still think there's a bias against them and pro London and Manchester.

There probably are a lot of Liverpool fans working in the media. There might be an ever so slight overall bias there, but I don't think it's big even if there.
 
What they need for next season is about £500m of new players. Trouble is if you believe the papers Guardiola at City and Mourinho at Utd will have brought up every player out there.

I think it's a brilliant time to have a young squad who don't appear to need to much tweaking for that very reason. Will be interesting to see who Klopp brings in.
 
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Biggest benefit of flying under the radar is that it takes the pressure off the players. We have a young squad who are outperforming all our expectations but you don't know whether they would have been impacted if they woke up everyone morning to see stories about us being favourites for the title, playing brilliantly etc. The fact that Leicester are where they are and getting all the attention really takes the pressure off us; its a bit galling that the club aren't getting the praise which it deserves but I think helps our performances
I also think it can serve as a motivational tool. "We're getting no respect" can fire up the players to prove everyone wrong.
 
Tottenham’s ‘animals’ lose their flaky tag
The transformation of Tottenham Hotspur under Mauricio Pochettino was captured well by the Watford manager, Quique Sánchez Flores. For when was the last time a vanquished opponent described Spurs approvingly as “animals”? Once a byword for flakiness, Spurs are now hailed for their ferocity. They still need to hone their predatory skills – they should have scored far more than one goal against Watford and for a while there was a fear that this would be another of those games in which Spurs dropped points despite dominating. Yet Kevin Wimmer’s seamless replacement of Jan Vertonghen has ensured their defence remains mean and they have the best goal difference in the league. They are proper title contenders, but they would have to be mighty beasts indeed to win it while also going far in the Europa League and FA Cup. Paul Doyle

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/feb/08/premier-league-talking-points-weekend
 
I also think it can serve as a motivational tool. "We're getting no respect" can fire up the players to prove everyone wrong.

Exactly, rather than believe that we can be champions, I think fighting to prove people wrong is a far greater motivator!
 
The fact that 3 million people are interested in what Owen has to say shows you what level the masses are at. Media mostly tell them what they want to hear or just the blindingly obvious.

Yeah. I suppose like politicians the people get the pundits they deserve?
 
Biggest benefit of flying under the radar is that it takes the pressure off the players. We have a young squad who are outperforming all our expectations but you don't know whether they would have been impacted if they woke up everyone morning to see stories about us being favourites for the title, playing brilliantly etc. The fact that Leicester are where they are and getting all the attention really takes the pressure off us; its a bit galling that the club aren't getting the praise which it deserves but I think helps our performances

A smart manager would have his players ignore the media, in all its various forms. The only world that matters is the one the players and club staff create for themselves.

Pochettino is a smart manager. He's created an amazing space for his players and his ideas to develop. We can judge by the almost total absence of the inside gossip and ITK in the past two years that he has built a secure place that the players can trust. He has them believing.

The tripe served up by an attention- and money-hungry media is irrelevant. We, as fans, need to believe that.
 
The fact that 3 million people are interested in what Owen has to say shows you what level the masses are at. Media mostly tell them what they want to hear or just the blindingly obvious.
I imagine most of them are following him for the comedic value.
 
Turns out Amy Lawrence is reading this board.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/feb/08/tottenham-title-premier-league-leicester-city

Tottenham’s title challenge is a fairytale too – but don’t shout about it

Tottenham winning the Premier League would be almost as remarkable as a triumph for Leicester City, and the fans dare not mention the t-word as the side go about their business efficiently under the radar

The last time Roma won the Serie A title, in 2001, in the weeks leading up to their coronation most supporters did not even dare talk about the possibility of winning it. They would not even say the word scudetto, the regular expression to denote Italian champions, as if by command from the highest overlords of superstition. They said “trukke trukke”, a catchphrase that loosely refers to a thing. It took on a life of its own. Everyone knew what they were talking about but nobody dared say it properly out loud.

The parable of trukke trukke perhaps strikes a chord at White Hart Lane.

Tottenham are quietly enjoying a season of extraordinary improvement and promise. But shhhh. They may be second in the table but this is not the time to make a racket about any big ideas.

The Leicester City whirlwind absolutely dominates the fairytale stakes, and rightly so. That suits Tottenham down to the ground. Winning six games in succession, playing with a strategy and confidence that has all the players bringing the best out of themselves and each other, of course there is a buzz around the place but it is more like background music compared with the crescendo of zany excitement that is building around the King Power.

Being slightly under the radar is a very useful place for Tottenham to be positioned. “We just want to stay as close as possible and our thing is to be humble,” said Christian Eriksen after Spurs clocked up another three points against Watford.

Among the crowd at White Hart Lane, the sentiment was echoed. Mike Collett, an esteemed football reporter who has been supporting Spurs since 1961, was in among the faithful and noticed that for all the fans’ positivity and happiness, it was conspicuous that nobody would dare to get carried away. “I have not heard anybody mention the word title,” he says. “Nobody among my friends talks about it. I am not allowing myself to think we can win the league. We have had so many false dawns. It never happens.”


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Tottenham celebrate after winning the first division in 1961, with the manager, Bill Nicholson, seated and wearing a bowler hat. That was the club’s most recent title. Photograph: Popperfoto/Getty Images
The thing is, although nothing can match Leicester’s title bid for improbability, the scale of Tottenham’s achievement if their run continues to trukke trukke proportions would not be too far behind. They haven’t had a league title win since 1961. Any of their fans able to recall the experience of watching Bill Nicholson’s Double team, inspired by such players as Danny Blanchflower, Dave Mackay, Cliff Jones and Bobby Smith, will be at least in their sixties now. Incidentally, that team essentially won the title using a core of 12 players (five of the total of 17 played six times or fewer). But that’s another story for another day.

Even the chance to have a genuine shot at another title has not come along too often for Tottenham. There is a reason that “sexy” is in the urban dictionary. Perhaps that is why it is better that there is not too much of a noise around N17. Collett can sense something special is happening, though. “I think this is the best team Tottenham have had since the mid-1980s team that won the FA Cup twice. There is an incredible confidence in the team that we haven’t felt for donkey’s years.”

Tottenham’s form, guided expertly by Mauricio Pochettino and a bunch of players who are following his instructions with aplomb, puts a new slant on traditional expectations. There is real (if deliberately understated) hope that the Argentinian manager, if he is not allowed to leave for a richer club at a time when Tottenham will be tightening their belts to pay for their stadium upgrade, can create a team capable of lasting success.

Next on the agenda is Emirates Marketing Project, reeling from the pummelling delivered by Leicester on Saturday. Tottenham made a statement with a comprehensive victory over Manuel Pellegrini’s team in September and, arguably, they have upgraded their own style since then.

Of course, Leicester still have a five-point lead over Spurs and have no cup distractions, while Pochettino has Europa League fixtures against Fiorentina and an FA Cup fifth round match against Crystal Palace to juggle in the coming weeks, all of which adds to the sense that Tottenham are in the background of any title conversations.

It has been a while since English football has produced an unexpected champion. Leicester might be the people’s favourites but Tottenham don’t mind doing their stuff in the shadows.
 
I suspect the majority of pundits don't want to show themselves up by committing. They have the luxury of having Leicester really (really really) exceeding expectations, and confounding those who had been predicting a nailed-on burn-out.

Imagine that the Foxes were mid-table and remaining top-runners were as now. They would have to give us more attention, but could show themselves up by saying we could do it (and get laughed at by others who always 'knew' we'd collapse), or say we'd be sexy (and get laughed at by others who would say they hadn't seen a change in our outlook).

Just waiting for the big Chelski comeback (another draw), or Liverwhinge holding firm (another draw), Manure .. etc etc

They just love their old favourites, and want to see everything from their standpoint**. Too few are neutral enough to be accurate.


** See Saul Steinburg's cartoon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_World_from_9th_Avenue
 
According to Garth Crooks (talking about the Watford game)...
"There wasn't much to separate Spurs and Watford in this encounter..."

I have no idea what he's basing that assessment on. I watched the match and despite the solitary goal, we completely played them off the park. But even if you didn't watch the match (and I'm assuming Crooks didn't) the stats really don't suggest that "there wasn't much to separate" the teams...
Possession : 66 / 34
Shots: 25 / 3
On target: 8 / 0
Corners: 15 / 1

If you're a pundit and you see those stats as indicative of a close match. Or worse; if you're getting paid for an analysis based purely on the scoreline... then it simply means you're bloody awful at your job and you should really think about giving someone else a go.
 
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