Saudi Sportswashing Machine this season? We were unlucky in that game. Today we were just absolute gash.Yep
It’s like the team that lost to Brighton earlier in the season and the one that lost to Saudi Sportswashing Machine
It’s almost exactly the same team actually
And we lost to Bournemouth last season too
Brighton then?Saudi Sportswashing Machine this season? We were unlucky in that game. Today we were just absolute gash.
Last season’s loss to Bournemouth... to a last minute goal when we has 9 men.
Why do you want to make so many excuses for Mourinho?
Things change quickly in football. Arsenal up until a couple of weeks ago were a laughing stock. Southampton got spanked 9-0 and looked down and out under their manager but since then it’s changed. There are many many more examples. We were never going to be dining at the top table forever. Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea. All these big teams have had periods outside the top 4,and they are far bigger and more successful than us so this was inevitable at some point. A few under the radar realistic transfers could really make a big difference, I don’t think it’s outrageous to suggest one of the most successful managers in the history of the game deserves an actual pre season and chance to mould this team the way he wants at least...Brighton then?
People seem to forget our league form has been in this negative spin since last Jan vs Burnley (another crunch game bottled)
with Jose I think it comes back to trying to give the guy some time before people judge. I didn’t want him here and made that clear at the time but he is here
maybe I’m an idiot for thinking everyone deserves a chance, especially when the club decides to pay them so much money, but that’s me. I look at what he has done and where he has done it and I do believe that given a chance here he may do something here thAt will appease the trophy hunters
What’s clear as day again is the players need to be made more accountable with the fans ire but everything seems to stop with the manager time and time again. Jose isn’t doing a perfect job, he is at best doing an average job but as I showed earlier Ole who is now setting records had a worse record after 22 games as United full time manager and that was with backing from the board and fans.
What is it as I can’t see exactly what it is ?
I think the displays from the last three games are enough to say that if we'd been relegated it wouldn't all have been down to poch.
Time the players took some responsibility.
“We need a painful rebuild” - summer 2019.
He got Ndombele, 3 players in final year of contract and then 3 weeks after season had started, Lo Celso and an injured Ryan Sessengnon.
people seem to love slagging Poch off, but it’s a simple question, was he right in his assessment in 2019, yes or no?
it’s again a simple dynamic of a chairman thinking he knows better on sporting matters on the pitch and being proven wrong. anyone who watched The Last Dance will recognise this.
“We need a painful rebuild” - summer 2019.
He got Ndombele, 3 players in final year of contract and then 3 weeks after season had started, Lo Celso and an injured Ryan Sessengnon.
people seem to love slagging Poch off, but it’s a simple question, was he right in his assessment in 2019, yes or no?
it’s again a simple dynamic of a chairman thinking he knows better on sporting matters on the pitch and being proven wrong. anyone who watched The Last Dance will recognise this.
Thought the same thing myselfThe transfer window closed before the season started so you might want to check your notes there
THFC have made Levy a very, VERY rich man. Some of that increased value is through his good work. Some of it is due to football booming. Levy and Lewis were clever in realising that football as an entertainment industry (although one of those words in that sentence seems alien to Mourinho) was significantly undervalued.The answer is obviously buying and repairing a club supported by such impetuous, impatient, ungrateful clams.
The transfer window closed before the season started so you might want to check your notes there
I’d argue it’s over valued now myself hence the crazy vale out on football clubs like ours and United with debt mountains sat there on the balance sheet but it’s all made him a very rich man as you sayTHFC have made Levy a very, VERY rich man. Some of that increased value is through his good work. Some of it is due to football booming. Levy and Lewis were clever in realising that football as an entertainment industry (although one of those words in that sentence seems alien to Mourinho) was significantly undervalued.
Taking 20 years to do the stadium.
whilst it’s clearly not all on him - the impact of a shiney new stadium isn’t what it was.
it also distracted from everything else.
I think you underestimate the projected increase in revenue that the stadium will bring to the club - we have always been adrift of the big clubs financially* and first year in we've already moved above Chelsea/Arsenal - once the multipurpose aspect really kicks in we'll only have United and City with more clout imo
Obviously doesn't mean it'll be spent right or at sll but the stadium very much can be the game changer we want it to be
*at one point our revenue was closer to the bottom of the league than it was the side above us on the ladder iirc
You're right, apologies.
What i shoud have said is we signed Lo Celso so late into the Summer that he missed an entirety of pre-season with us and couldn't start a game for the first 5 games where he was a late substitute. In that time we lost to Saudi Sportswashing Machine at home. Then he got injured which no one could have foresaw of course.
However, my point is, going into the start of a new season with one signing in the summer (after the manager said we need a painful rebuild), and the other two coming at a point where they couldn't even play when they arrived, is brick. You can argue it's great if you want, i think it's brick.
So back to my point, Poch said the team was done. People are now sitting here going "yeh the team is done". What we did was sack the best manager we've probably ever had, and now have a manager who's led us to a new record as being the first team to ever play Bournemouth and not even register a shot on goal. Wahey!
Biggest mistake for me is bringing in Jose.
There's been other things he's done that I've disagreed with but I could see why they were done, but I don't see the logic in Jose.
I'm not a jose hater, far from it, and as long as he is here he will have my full support, but it just doesn't seem like a good fit for us.
Hope I'm wrong but I don't see it ending well.