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Well here's some interesting news
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monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Send in th clowns
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Sure. But if he's a good manager he needs to be able to identify more than one very expensive top top player for a position he wants to strengthen.
Can't just say "I want Hulk" and then if that doesn't work out throw your toys out of your pram because you didn't want the one player you wanted. There needs to be a list of players that are at least potentially gettable that can all strengthen the team if we sign them. And then he needs to work with the suggestions from the other members of the transfer committee and make his case.
It's like when Redknapp reportedly wanted Tevez and we ended up with Saha. You can't have a shortlist of targets that goes 1: Tevez. 2: Saha. Especially when the top target is a tough ask in terms of transfer fee and wages and competition from other clubs.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Tevez and Saha are, at that stage of their careers, at opposite ends of the spectrum. Lamela and Hulk? not so much. Id agree with the likes of Moutinho and Dembele as they are different sorts of players.
Tenez would have got us CL and finish 3rd in that season.
Reggie_Mentalist
Jamie Redknapp
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of skill, but also very different player types. Lamela and Hulk are quite different too I think, the point raised was about getting the right type of player with the right skill set in.
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SUIYHA
Scott Parker
Wenger wanted Suarez, Higuain and Luis Gustavo this summer. I'm sure that if the Arsenal board hadn't refused then Arsenal would have already won the title and Champions League by now.
There's no reason to believe AVB would have given the Daily Mail the exclusive scoop given what happened with Ashton and Samuel. I think they're trying to make something out of what AVB said in his post-match interview after the Liverpool game and trying to put two and two together based around his ambiguous comments about whether this was the squad he wanted to work with and the fact that he has hardly used some of the players that were signed. I would say though, that if it was true, it actually makes me think we were even more correct to get rid of AVB, as whilst the jury is still out on Lamela, Eriksen and Chiriches both look to be a lot better than any of the players that AVB actually did want, and I include Willian in that.
Finally, if you got frustrated at our team playing too narrow and being full of big strong players without much finesse who like to cut inside and take pot shots from distance, then can you imagine if AVB had gotten his way (allegedly) and we'd signed Hulk???
There's no reason to believe AVB would have given the Daily Mail the exclusive scoop given what happened with Ashton and Samuel. I think they're trying to make something out of what AVB said in his post-match interview after the Liverpool game and trying to put two and two together based around his ambiguous comments about whether this was the squad he wanted to work with and the fact that he has hardly used some of the players that were signed. I would say though, that if it was true, it actually makes me think we were even more correct to get rid of AVB, as whilst the jury is still out on Lamela, Eriksen and Chiriches both look to be a lot better than any of the players that AVB actually did want, and I include Willian in that.
Finally, if you got frustrated at our team playing too narrow and being full of big strong players without much finesse who like to cut inside and take pot shots from distance, then can you imagine if AVB had gotten his way (allegedly) and we'd signed Hulk???
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Really? It works in most other places in Europe, why is it a load of **** here?
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
And as others have said:
There is no way AVB would go to the DM of all papers to tell them this.
The papers always come out with these stories after a manager has been sacked in this country with a DoF structure. It is because the media attack what they cannot understand or what is perceived to be foreign. Manager sacked with a Dof? Must be DoF's fault? Goal conceded with zonal marking? Why the **** would you use that system? No goals are ever conceded with the man to man marking.
Didn't AVB and his most fervent supporters say that he'd spent his year out of work travelling the world scouting players? He spent that year doing that and then asked for...Hulk, Villa, Moutinho and Willian. Right....
We're Tottenham. We have neither the money nor the prestige to demand players. Villa not only wanted to stay in Spain but went to a club that has had more recent success than us. Moutinho we should hve gotten, silly from Levy there. Willian we went almost all the way and then were beaten by Chelsea. Hulk? Is he kidding? He went for between 40-60 million Euros and has a huge salary we could almost certainly never afford. For a supersized, better wing version of Defoe.
Again, as others have mentioned, you can't go for Hulk as number one and then not have a suitable backup player in mind in case it doesn't come off.
He apparently had interest from PSG this summer. I can't imagine he'd have stayed here to be undermined when there would be a more lucrative, more free spending job elsewhere.
There is no way AVB would go to the DM of all papers to tell them this.
The papers always come out with these stories after a manager has been sacked in this country with a DoF structure. It is because the media attack what they cannot understand or what is perceived to be foreign. Manager sacked with a Dof? Must be DoF's fault? Goal conceded with zonal marking? Why the **** would you use that system? No goals are ever conceded with the man to man marking.
Didn't AVB and his most fervent supporters say that he'd spent his year out of work travelling the world scouting players? He spent that year doing that and then asked for...Hulk, Villa, Moutinho and Willian. Right....
We're Tottenham. We have neither the money nor the prestige to demand players. Villa not only wanted to stay in Spain but went to a club that has had more recent success than us. Moutinho we should hve gotten, silly from Levy there. Willian we went almost all the way and then were beaten by Chelsea. Hulk? Is he kidding? He went for between 40-60 million Euros and has a huge salary we could almost certainly never afford. For a supersized, better wing version of Defoe.
Again, as others have mentioned, you can't go for Hulk as number one and then not have a suitable backup player in mind in case it doesn't come off.
He apparently had interest from PSG this summer. I can't imagine he'd have stayed here to be undermined when there would be a more lucrative, more free spending job elsewhere.
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
Haven't read the thread but the article strikes me as lazy - there were very good reasons that we were unable to sign Moutinho (this year) and Villa, and Hulk was likely way outside of our budget. So to suggest these 'failures' somehow reflect badly on the club/chairman is way off the mark IMO.
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Because we have more than one DoF. Baldini, the other, his name is Daniel Levy
All the top Spanish and Italian clubs have a DoF AND a very hands on owner/president. They still manage to get things done. Unless you've got some kind of inside track on what Levy does every day and how the various decision makers work together I don't see how you can draw any kind of conclusions.
charlietheyid
Banned
One of our managers wanted top good players and our chairman wanted cheap players. No news here.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Unless AVB really wants that WBA job.