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monkeybarry said:
Is that all it is in the ground?
Alcohol free beer is that much in lots of pubs - even up here in Norwich!

It is an interesting change - pubs now cost the same/more than the sports venues and music venues
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Alcohol free beer is like licking out your sister, it may taste similar, but you know it's wrong:tonguewink:
 
scaramanga said:
When players are being honest (such as the secret footballer) they'll tell you that themselves.

The rest is fans convincing themselves that they have some kind of relevance outside their wallets.
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So let's get things straight, and I respect your opinion. You don't think the supporter demographic makes a difference to the atmosphere, and you don't think the atmosphere has an effect on the performance of players. I'm seriously starting to wonder why anyone attends games
 
veryoldspur said:
Not when you support Spurs you aren't
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You are. If you can't enjoy life because you support Spurs then maybe you should stop supporting them and that's a you problem not a Spurs problem. Veryoldspur? You sound like a spolit child.

veryoldspur said:
So let's get things straight, and I respect your opinion. You don't think the supporter demographic makes a difference to the atmosphere, and you don't think the atmosphere has an effect on the performance of players. I'm seriously starting to wonder why anyone attends games
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There's no need to wonder, they attend because they enjoy it.
 
veryoldspur said:
So let's get things straight, and I respect your opinion. You don't think the supporter demographic makes a difference to the atmosphere, and you don't think the atmosphere has an effect on the performance of players. I'm seriously starting to wonder why anyone attends games
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I think demographic makes a difference to atmosphere, I just don't agree with the assertion that old, working class types are better to be around in a stadium.

I'd far rather be in the nice seats with the good catering.

I attend games because I enjoy the live event. Not because of some misguided belief that I can make players be better than they are with magic singing words.
 
scaramanga said:
I think demographic makes a difference to atmosphere, I just don't agree with the assertion that old, working class types are better to be around in a stadium.

I'd far rather be in the nice seats with the good catering.

I attend games because I enjoy the live event. Not because of some misguided belief that I can make players be better than they are with magic singing words.
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So you haven’t been to Anfield under the lights in a champions league game?
 
I was at Anfield in 2009 to see them lose against Lyon in the CL. Hugo was in goal for Lyon. After YNWA you could hear a pin drop. The guys I went with were all big Liverpool fans. It was hilarious.
 
nelto said:
I was at Anfield in 2009 to see them lose against Lyon in the CL. Hugo was in goal for Lyon. After YNWA you could hear a pin drop. The guys I went with were all big Liverpool fans. It was hilarious.
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These amazing atmospheres are myths
Even in Germany
I’ve been to Dortmund 3 times and admittedly they lost 2 of those games including against us but it wasn’t as great as I’d expected
The best I’ve seen was Birmingham city their first year in the prem and also West Brom… lots of men with foaming mouths wanting to hurt us big they made a hell of a noise
 
scaramanga said:
When players are being honest (such as the secret footballer) they'll tell you that themselves.

The rest is fans convincing themselves that they have some kind of relevance outside their wallets.
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If this is true, why did the home advantage basically disappear during COVID?
 
Pandy said:
If this is true, why did the home advantage basically disappear during COVID?
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I'd be interested to see some data on that.

One obvious reason would be that players like what is familiar and regular - hence liking to play at home. During COVID, every match was weird (except for Arsenal).

I'm sure you'll see a slight lean towards teams that regularly play in cup finals even when they're having worse seasons that their opponents. That's certainly a factor in the playoffs in the NFL and that's a sport where plays/adjustments have to be communicated and home crowds can actually make a difference by being noisy.
 
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