Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Indeed and that is before you get beyond the best 11 players. Mourinho was trying to get Dier to Man Utd and prepared to pay £50m for example.
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Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
A player with just 6 months left on his contract. A player able to sign a pre contract deal and go on a free at that point. The fact we could still get £17m for him then from an overseas club shows how valuable he was in a normal contract situation.
Nobody would’ve needed to pay that for Sissoko or Lamela. In fact nobody would’ve needed to pay anything at all for them. When Poch’s squad were at their peak (the last season at WHL or first at Wembley) the first 11 alone would’ve fetched more than £500m
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
I mostly agree.
But it's also difficult to know beforehand. Several players have also stayed on after wanting a move away and been really good. Modric and Kane for example.
All individual decisions and errors will be made. But we've probably been too reluctant to sell good players that want a move on the whole.
Ange, based on what he's said, seems quite clear that he only wants players that really want to be here, for new signings at least.
Fully agreed on recruitment. That needs to be better than it was and seems to be quite good now.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Sorry but I disagree, and from that list I don't think we are getting £120m for Toby, Jan and rose.
But it's OK to disagree, so let's move on.
Lemonade Money
Dimitar Berbatov
Good luck!!!
Lemonade Money
Dimitar Berbatov
Not seen anything of Grealish at City to wish we'd signed him. Think Levy was bang on only being interested if we could nick him for a profit.
Bishop
Nick Barmby
Honestly we don't need to fixate on specific fees, the important part is we could have used the values of the squad to regenerate the squad in a far better way than we do.
Baleforce
Les Bennett
2 bullets dodged.
Yiddo
Jack Jull
You mean all those rumours that were never confirmed as being solid interest? I suppose if it fits the narrative you crack on.
I would have had to take a long sabbatical from supporting us.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
Lemonade Money
Dimitar Berbatov
With hindsight, that's probably what Poch should have done after the CL final.
Not sure Bruno Fernandes would have been worth the money. Go watch or read any United blog and most of them feel he flatters to deceive.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
I think it will have to end before the season ends for Ange to survive.
We need players back from injuries and a less exhausted team for that to happen imo. Januar gives us the option to accelerate that.
Personally I think Ange needs to put more trust in Spence, Gray, Bergvall, Moore (when back) and/or Lankshear. They may not be good enough to improve us when playing, but trusting them more could help alleviate the fatigue that I think is really hurting us right now.
If that fatigue just continues I don't think performances will improve markedly and the risk of further injuries before others return will be significant - further extending the current period of suffering.
It will have to end over Xmas for Ange to survive IMO, we are only 11 points off the bottom 3 with one of the worst current forms in the division and Ange has never shown the type of consistency needed to get out of that sort of hole if we look like we are falling into it. We lose to Southampton we will only be 8 points off the bottom 3. We will then play Liverpool and Forest before another bottom 3 side in Wolves by which time that would be billed a 6 pointer and I think he'd be gone. The club can't afford to even contemplate getting into that sort of situation. A bad loss to Southampton would see him gone IMO.
braineclipse
Terry Dyson
Would have to be a really bad loss against Southampton for me to think that was likely. Lost the dressing room kind of bad.
Impossible to know how long he has if our current really bad run keeps going. But there will definitely be some kind of limit there. Lose the next four and he's in real trouble imo.
Southampton are bottom. A deserved loss to them, similar to recent performances would be "really bad". Not just in isolation but in terms of where it would leave us: very much looking nervously over our shoulder and having to prioritise staying in the division over any hope of European places or silverware. Ange is the opposite kind of manager for that situation too. When you get in the s***, you need pragmatism to the max. "It's a process mate" and "it's how we play mate" won't cut it anymore.