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Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand

scaramanga said:
Not quite. You play each team in your own division of 4 twice - 3 home and 3 away.

Then you play 4 games against teams from another division in your conference, and 4 against teams from the other conference. This is on a rotation so that you play everyone at least once every 4 years. That's another 4 home and 4 away.

Lastly, you play 2 matches against teams in your own conference, from divisions you haven't already played against. This is meant to be a fairly even match up based on the previous year's results. One more home and one more away game.

So it's 8 in total and 1 or 2 more possible home games if your team makes the playoffs, depending on seeding. But I don't think we have to worry about the Raiders making the playoffs any time soon and especially not getting home advantage.
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So this is the equivalent of us playing our home PL games in the states? Why would a club want to do that and write off all that support. Also that would surely tinkle off the US based supporters?
MKSpur said:
That’s exactly what I thought when I saw the logo!

My second thought was this would be good purely as they have no red in their branding!

If we can pull this off it’s almost half a million extra people paying to go to the stadium, happy to spend a load on food and drink inside - with some paying for premium corporate prices. If we made £50
per person that would be an extra 25m a season / 500k a week for wages. I have no idea what our cut of ticket sales and food and drink would be but conservatively guessing at 50% with a ticket averaging £50 and another £50 spent inside?

The money that can be made from the circa 340 days a year the stadium is empty is the real opportunity to get a competitive advantage on the clubs that have genuine higher revenues than is due to their stadium and commercial incomes.

The boxpark yesterday was a little taste of what I think the after match experience could be like, lots of food options with people mingling from all areas of the ground with a big screen watching Goons get humiliated. Add in a fast pour for 4 quid or a nice drop from Beavertown and I can see it being popular when there is a game on before or after ours.

The team have done brilliantly to ease the Wembley experience by at least giving us results and performances but days like yesterday make me long for ‘home’ even more.
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Do you think we would have won yesterdays game at WHL or NWHL? Sometimes things just dont go your way but i do think a decent crowd may have kicked the players on a bit. I havent been to wembley this season and wont again as i dont like the long day out there anymore so cant comment on the current atmosphere. Was it a bit crap yesterday?
 
GinolaGinolaGinola said:
Do you think we would have won yesterdays game at WHL or NWHL? Sometimes things just dont go your way but i do think a decent crowd may have kicked the players on a bit. I havent been to wembley this season and wont again as i dont like the long day out there anymore so cant comment on the current atmosphere. Was it a bit crap yesterday?
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I’ve been going to around 75% of the games. The first season I think we took in good spirits but I sit in the equivalent of my old position in the shelf lower, nearer the Park Lane and on the cut off where it was still permissable to stand most of the time. I rarely see many of the people I used to sit near and even when I do they’ve been spread out. As less and less people have attended I have someone different around me every game, the response to the ‘we’re the park lane’ song only engaged around 20 of us. My neighbours yesterday were kids, tourists and wolves fans. Now I don’t begrudge any of those paying customers the right to attend but I don’t want to be sitting in the same sexism.

It’s hard to get a song going in that environment and standing up is now not an option. Even when we win there the atmosphere is weak but I think it can help motivate a team a little. I’m not saying it would have changed the result but of we’d been at our home ground the players might have appreciated the support. If Wembley was the only experience I’d had of attending matches I doubt I’d have become a ST holder as I’ve honestly felt more passion watching it in a pub. When we are sitting with like minded people I’m sure everyone will enjoy it more and the team will benefit too, it just can’t come quick enough now.
 
GinolaGinolaGinola said:
So this is the equivalent of us playing our home PL games in the states? Why would a club want to do that and write off all that support. Also that would surely tinkle off the US based supporters?
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Not quite. I haven't followed the story all that closely, so I may not have this entirely right. My understanding is that the Raiders are leaving Oakland and setting up in Vegas. The stadium in Vegas won't be ready for at least another year, but the stadium owners in Oakland have essentially told the Raiders to do one. They're now homeless for one, possibly two seasons.

A better analogy would be the MK Dons playing their home games for a season in the US after leaving Wimbledon. Probably no loss of domestic fans but with the added bonus of some extra US ones.
 
Week of the 7th of Jan we'll know more.. Really hope the contractors have good news for Levy.

Would be a real boost for the end of our season. I think it'll be Feb at the earliest... Dortmund game would be of the right magnitude for an opening experience.
 
Hopefully gives a little more clarity around the corner issue.


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nayenezgani said:
Week of the 7th of Jan we'll know more.. Really hope the contractors have good news for Levy.

Would be a real boost for the end of our season. I think it'll be Feb at the earliest... Dortmund game would be of the right magnitude for an opening experience.
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Not sure they would want to open on a night game, a weekend game logistically would be better
 
MKSpur said:
I’ve been going to around 75% of the games. The first season I think we took in good spirits but I sit in the equivalent of my old position in the shelf lower, nearer the Park Lane and on the cut off where it was still permissable to stand most of the time. I rarely see many of the people I used to sit near and even when I do they’ve been spread out. As less and less people have attended I have someone different around me every game, the response to the ‘we’re the park lane’ song only engaged around 20 of us. My neighbours yesterday were kids, tourists and wolves fans. Now I don’t begrudge any of those paying customers the right to attend but I don’t want to be sitting in the same sexism.

It’s hard to get a song going in that environment and standing up is now not an option. Even when we win there the atmosphere is weak but I think it can help motivate a team a little. I’m not saying it would have changed the result but of we’d been at our home ground the players might have appreciated the support. If Wembley was the only experience I’d had of attending matches I doubt I’d have become a ST holder as I’ve honestly felt more passion watching it in a pub. When we are sitting with like minded people I’m sure everyone will enjoy it more and the team will benefit too, it just can’t come quick enough now.
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I’ve never had a season ticket but did get a Wembley Pass along with a friend last season and we built up a nice rapport with the lads around us over the course of the campaign.

However the Wembley experience this season has gone from bad to worse over the past few months. Without the Pass to give us the incentive to attend every week, we’ve missed more matches already than we did in the whole of last campaign whilst many season ticket holders I know are simply getting refunds for everything bar Category A matches as they dislike matchdays at the FA’s corporate bowl so much.

Can’t say I blame them as almost every match this season I’ve been surrounded by tourists who clearly have no interest in Tottenham or seemingly even football, judging by the fact that they spend most of the match with their back to the pitch whilst they pull silly faces for their selfies :mad:
 
SteveAWOL said:
I’ve never had a season ticket but did get a Wembley Pass along with a friend last season and we built up a nice rapport with the lads around us over the course of the campaign.

However the Wembley experience this season has gone from bad to worse over the past few months. Without the Pass to give us the incentive to attend every week, we’ve missed more matches already than we did in the whole of last campaign whilst many season ticket holders I know are simply getting refunds for everything bar Category A matches as they dislike matchdays at the FA’s corporate bowl so much.

Can’t say I blame them as almost every match this season I’ve been surrounded by tourists who clearly have no interest in Tottenham or seemingly even football, judging by the fact that they spend most of the match with their back to the pitch whilst they pull silly faces for their selfies :mad:
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Although the refund was the right thing to do I think any club would struggle if fans could pick and choose the games they attend after committing to a season ticket - especially with the less fan friendly sly sports scheduling times.

It’s odd when I think back to a few years ago when we had a less successful team and with the Europa and some terrible scheduling meaning we barely had a Saturday 3pm kick off, yet the commitment and atmosphere was right up there. Even in our short term experience you can see the challenge West Ham face - for them I think their recent results have also made more palatable.
 
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