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Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand

I assumed we were pushing for the govt to sort out the transport before we committed.

Rising costs and lacking infrastructure could well make banks more hesitant in giving us funds, though it looks like it's been sorted now:

From the Times: "HSBC, Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch will provide almost half of the money required to complete the £750 million rebuilding of White Hart Lane. The rest of the funding will come from advanced ticket sales, a ten-year ground rental arrangement with the NFL and a possible naming-rights deal."
 
Some interesting stuff from Stevieed on SSC:

By way of background, I had a behind the scenes tour at White Hart Lane and the new stadium this week. I also have a contact which I cannot divulge who has given me reassurances over the build/project/times. I have tried to make very clear below where I have extrapolated ideas from what I've been told and what is exact fact! Also, some information here will duplicate what has been written elsewhere on this thread, but I thought I would consolidate regardless. I will post photos as soon as I can (although they're not great, so don't hold out much hope...)

When are we moving out of White Hart Lane and general build matters
  • The club are already starting to strip out White Hart Lane and will remove all non-essential materials/items prior to the United game
  • The demolition is currently timetabled for 48 hours after the United game ends
  • Expect to see demolition equipment parked at the holding area from just before the United game (this should be our biggest indication as to whether was I was told is correct)
  • There is internal debate as to whether they can remove the seats individually to sell to season ticket holders, this is currently considered unlikely as although the club would love to do this it will delay the demolition
  • There are currently 700 people working on the site during the week and 300 at weekends
  • The build is on schedule, this was confirmed by three separate sources who work in both the office and the build site, including two persons who were at a high level management meeting recently which confirmed the build is on schedule
  • I think this has been rebutted already, but there is no way that Levy will open the stadium partially complete. This is his baby and he wants a grand opening, there is absolutely no way he'll allow a single screw to not be fully screwed down, let alone a quarter of the stadium still not complete
  • There were concerns about the financing of the stadium, but more so in respect to the cost and not regarding whether we could source financing or not. These have now been resolved (refer The Times article)
  • Interestingly no one would divulge any information regarding the build of the roof, not sure if they didn't know anything about it (unlikely) or maybe I'd asked too many questions by that point...
  • The player accommodation block at the training ground (do not call it a hotel!!!) is part of the NFL tie up and we will offer it to visiting teams, particularly European teams
  • Each screen is the size of a tennis court and will be high definition

Stadium trivia
  • The longest bar in a European sports venue (80m) will be in the South Stand atrium; unsure of how this would work properly (I forgot to ask), but assume it bends round into the GA areas of East and West stands
  • The brewery will be located in the South stand and the plan is not only to brew a specific craft beer (unfortunately there is already a Hopspur!!) but they will also brew the stadium beer partners beer; i.e. if Heineken are the official beer supplier then Heineken will be brewed on site and under license
  • They are doing some very cool things with local suppliers, such as the left over produce from the brewing is going to a local farm, to be used as pig food, who will then supply us with meat (largely pigs)
  • The Skywalk looks amazing! The current plan is that you will be harnessed in, much like the O2 dome walk. You can walk over the South Stand roof and look down at the pitch through the clear parts of the roof. There are also plans for you to then abseil down the South stand into the public square
  • There are currently investigating whether to install a Spider Cam or not, however this is likely to be only for NFL games and will be removed for football games
  • The on-site bakery will only supply baked goods for the corporate areas, other food will be brought in
  • The grass pitch can be stored for up to 5 days as it will be fully serviced with water, air ventilation and grow lights. They've done this so that they can host concerts over the weekends
  • They are expecting up to 15 non-football events per year; no-one I spoke to knew whether this was non "soccer" or non-football including NFL
  • The naming partner is not yet known at any level in the club, so all rumours of who it will be are purely conjecture at this point
  • The main TV gantry is in the East stand, at the front of the upper tier, with a further TV gantry in the West stand alongside the commentary boxes. Naturally there will be further camera spots around the stadium and this was a key consideration given the NFL involvement
  • There's a mock up of the GA toilets which I haven't seen, although a friend has, and his comment was "nicest toilets I've ever seen in a sporting venue". There is also a mock up of a food outlet which looks very stylish (think I photo has been circulated on here previously)
  • The shop will feature a scanning system via an app on your phone, whereby you scan the items as you walk around the store and automatically pay as you exit; a similar idea to the Waitrose system
  • Anyone can access the home atrium in the South stand with a home ticket
  • There is a shortlist of hotel partners for the 4/5* hotel, most likely a large US brand such as Hilton or Marriott
  • Family section has not been locked down, but is likely to be in the north stand upper, although there are concerns of locating families close to the away fans
  • The hard hat tour area which will be opened up shortly is just a viewing platform in the north stand 4th floor, the views are great but you can't really see into the internals of the stadium

The H Club
  • Will attempt to obtain Michelin star for the food
  • Partnering with Roux family
  • £15k joining fee and £15k annual cost; tickets must be purchased in pairs and as for all corporate tickets a minimum period of 3 years must be signed up for and tickets must be purchased in pairs
  • Somelier and cheese waiter will be on hand to assist
  • Other celebrity chefs will be brought in to cook for guests, they are really trying to make this the premium lounge offering at any sporting stadium in Europe
  • There are 3 dining options; informal, fine dining and chefs table

The Tunnel Club
  • Club did not expect such high demand, 90% of the 104 tickets have already been sold
  • £15k joining fee and £9.5k per season
  • Seats will be the same as what the players/manager sit in, will be heated recaros with USB jacks
  • This has been contentious with the players as they really do not want to be watched in the tunnel...

The Sky Lounge
  • Exactly mirrored West and East stands, although you may not transfer between the stands
  • You will not be able to stay in the lounge during the match and electronic blinds will cover the windows during each half to ensure that we comply with FA regulations
  • The roof of the Sky Lounge is the roof of the stadium and looks amazing
  • 260 people will be in each lounge
  • Tapas style food will be offered

Premium Seats
  • Marketed as a Club Wembley and Arsenal Club level style package, but more premium
  • Concourses look great and they're trying to break them up into individual seating areas, bar areas and eating areas
  • Huge range of food will be available for purchase, from a free finger food buffet up to fine dining options
  • Get a free drink at half time, much like Arsenal Club seats
  • Not enough seating for everyone in here
  • Consists of approximately 6,000 out of the 8,000 hospitality seats in the stadium

General hospitality
  • Although the tickets are selling well the sales people have been under a lot of pressure given that this is a key financing area of the build; I think there were c. 2.5k corporate seats at WHL, so to increase that to 8k is a huge undertaking
  • DL wants the entire stadium to be of a corporate hospitality level, the fit and finish will be exceptional throughout
  • You may arrive up to 3 hours before the game and leave up to 2 hours post game
  • The club are trying to get all visitors to arrive at the ground significantly prior to kick off, this is to both boost stadium income and remove the stain on public transport. Expect various activities etc throughout the GA areas
  • There will be a VIP shuttle bus from Alexandra Palace and Tottenham Hale bus stations for corporate hospitality ticket holders; these buses may use the bus lanes. There may also be an option of parking at the training ground and getting a bus in, although I highly doubt this is practical
  • You may get priority seat allocation for certain non-football events, but this depends on the partners specific to each event

My general thoughts
  • Spurs have gone all out with this stadium, the attention to detail is mind boggling and they've really tried to build the best stadium in Europe
  • It will be imposing on the inside, when looking back from the touch line the stands really tower over you
  • I really like that they've put the fan experience first, be it with the south stand atrium, the free wifi they are putting in or the generous seat space
  • I really do not like the join between the South stand and the East/West stands, it really looks bolted on and ugly; hopefully in real life they can make this look a bit prettier
  • The club have taken the offerings at other stadiums, including Arsenals, and blown them out of the water; even the basic hospitality offering is of great quality
  • I cannot wait for this stadium to open in 2018 (!), it will be world class; the pride, passion and excitement from the teams involved in the build is incredible - they really are building something special
 
Rising costs and lacking infrastructure could well make banks more hesitant in giving us funds, though it looks like it's been sorted now:

From the Times: "HSBC, Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch will provide almost half of the money required to complete the £750 million rebuilding of White Hart Lane. The rest of the funding will come from advanced ticket sales, a ten-year ground rental arrangement with the NFL and a possible naming-rights deal."
So we're taking a loan for half? That's a lot of repaying to do - especially if we've already used the pre-sale money as that quote suggests we will.
 
So we're taking a loan for half? That's a lot of repaying to do - especially if we've already used the pre-sale money as that quote suggests we will.

The annual finance report was posted yesterday. Someone on SSC found this snippet:

annual_report.jpg


According to the piece in the Times we can now go as high as £350 million.
 
The annual finance report was posted yesterday. Someone on SSC found this snippet:

annual_report.jpg


According to the piece in the Times we can now go as high as £350 million.
So we'll be paying off the debt whilst in the stadium and not getting the full increased revenue (as some of it is pre-sold for up to 10 years).

That could be quite a burden on our finances - as it has been for the goons.
 
So we'll be paying off the debt whilst in the stadium and not getting the full increased revenue (as some of it is pre-sold for up to 10 years).

That could be quite a burden on our finances - as it has been for the goons.

Much depends on the naming rights I think. We'll get a much better deal than they managed.
 
I don't think this is true, is it?

"White Hart Lane station will be redeveloped – with the creation of a newly-located station entrance, a new ticket hall and wider platform access. This redevelopment forms part of the regeneration plans for the west side of the High Road being led by Haringey Council. This scheme has received planning permission and is now programmed to open in line with the new stadium. "

That's straight from the official site

The station is being developed, not moved as I understand it. The building will stay where it is but be expanded.
 
bit mean about the seats if I go to the man u game I was hoping to take my seat home afterwards(legally)-would save thousands in disposal have stewards on hand to unscrew them.I imagine lots will be looking for souvenirs.
 
bit mean about the seats if I go to the man u game I was hoping to take my seat home afterwards(legally)-would save thousands in disposal have stewards on hand to unscrew them.I imagine lots will be looking for souvenirs.


Nice idea but it's all about health and safety etc and litigation
 
bit mean about the seats if I go to the man u game I was hoping to take my seat home afterwards(legally)-would save thousands in disposal have stewards on hand to unscrew them.I imagine lots will be looking for souvenirs.

I was looking forward to burning the seat in front of me, I don't need a memento of the Lane I already have the two ridges below my knees where the seat dug into them for the past 15 years.
 
So we'll be paying off the debt whilst in the stadium and not getting the full increased revenue (as some of it is pre-sold for up to 10 years).

That could be quite a burden on our finances - as it has been for the goons.

We're fortunate timing wise re borrowing. Base rate was around 5% during their build.........got to be tempting to lock in what you need while the base rates at 0.25%...i know what you're offered is relative to risk but we must be saving a fair bit in interest in comparison.

Of course with the £ the way it is not sure if we're getting stung with materials or expertise we are having to import.

Swings and roundabouts, me thinks.
 
bit mean about the seats if I go to the man u game I was hoping to take my seat home afterwards(legally)-would save thousands in disposal have stewards on hand to unscrew them.I imagine lots will be looking for souvenirs.
How about ripping out all the seats before Man Utd (not the West Stand obviously) and having one last knees up on the terraces for old times sake ?
 
We're fortunate timing wise re borrowing. Base rate was around 5% during their build.........got to be tempting to lock in what you need while the base rates at 0.25%...i know what you're offered is relative to risk but we must be saving a fair bit in interest in comparison.

Of course with the £ the way it is not sure if we're getting stung with materials or expertise we are having to import.

Swings and roundabouts, me thinks.
We took the loan at LIBOR. Whilst it's not likely to reach 5% it won't stay still either.

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Levy has it covered with the latest self cleaning anti tinkle technology and as a back up only the finest agency cleaners around.

we had new windows fitted in the conservatory when we moved in, apparently when it rained a liquid was meant to be released that would keep the windows clean, does not work on seagull brick though.
 
Some interesting stuff from Stevieed on SSC:

By way of background, I had a behind the scenes tour at White Hart Lane and the new stadium this week. I also have a contact which I cannot divulge who has given me reassurances over the build/project/times. I have tried to make very clear below where I have extrapolated ideas from what I've been told and what is exact fact! Also, some information here will duplicate what has been written elsewhere on this thread, but I thought I would consolidate regardless. I will post photos as soon as I can (although they're not great, so don't hold out much hope...)

When are we moving out of White Hart Lane and general build matters
  • The club are already starting to strip out White Hart Lane and will remove all non-essential materials/items prior to the United game
  • The demolition is currently timetabled for 48 hours after the United game ends
  • Expect to see demolition equipment parked at the holding area from just before the United game (this should be our biggest indication as to whether was I was told is correct)
  • There is internal debate as to whether they can remove the seats individually to sell to season ticket holders, this is currently considered unlikely as although the club would love to do this it will delay the demolition
  • There are currently 700 people working on the site during the week and 300 at weekends
  • The build is on schedule, this was confirmed by three separate sources who work in both the office and the build site, including two persons who were at a high level management meeting recently which confirmed the build is on schedule
  • I think this has been rebutted already, but there is no way that Levy will open the stadium partially complete. This is his baby and he wants a grand opening, there is absolutely no way he'll allow a single screw to not be fully screwed down, let alone a quarter of the stadium still not complete
  • There were concerns about the financing of the stadium, but more so in respect to the cost and not regarding whether we could source financing or not. These have now been resolved (refer The Times article)
  • Interestingly no one would divulge any information regarding the build of the roof, not sure if they didn't know anything about it (unlikely) or maybe I'd asked too many questions by that point...
  • The player accommodation block at the training ground (do not call it a hotel!!!) is part of the NFL tie up and we will offer it to visiting teams, particularly European teams
  • Each screen is the size of a tennis court and will be high definition

Stadium trivia
  • The longest bar in a European sports venue (80m) will be in the South Stand atrium; unsure of how this would work properly (I forgot to ask), but assume it bends round into the GA areas of East and West stands
  • The brewery will be located in the South stand and the plan is not only to brew a specific craft beer (unfortunately there is already a Hopspur!!) but they will also brew the stadium beer partners beer; i.e. if Heineken are the official beer supplier then Heineken will be brewed on site and under license
  • They are doing some very cool things with local suppliers, such as the left over produce from the brewing is going to a local farm, to be used as pig food, who will then supply us with meat (largely pigs)
  • The Skywalk looks amazing! The current plan is that you will be harnessed in, much like the O2 dome walk. You can walk over the South Stand roof and look down at the pitch through the clear parts of the roof. There are also plans for you to then abseil down the South stand into the public square
  • There are currently investigating whether to install a Spider Cam or not, however this is likely to be only for NFL games and will be removed for football games
  • The on-site bakery will only supply baked goods for the corporate areas, other food will be brought in
  • The grass pitch can be stored for up to 5 days as it will be fully serviced with water, air ventilation and grow lights. They've done this so that they can host concerts over the weekends
  • They are expecting up to 15 non-football events per year; no-one I spoke to knew whether this was non "soccer" or non-football including NFL
  • The naming partner is not yet known at any level in the club, so all rumours of who it will be are purely conjecture at this point
  • The main TV gantry is in the East stand, at the front of the upper tier, with a further TV gantry in the West stand alongside the commentary boxes. Naturally there will be further camera spots around the stadium and this was a key consideration given the NFL involvement
  • There's a mock up of the GA toilets which I haven't seen, although a friend has, and his comment was "nicest toilets I've ever seen in a sporting venue". There is also a mock up of a food outlet which looks very stylish (think I photo has been circulated on here previously)
  • The shop will feature a scanning system via an app on your phone, whereby you scan the items as you walk around the store and automatically pay as you exit; a similar idea to the Waitrose system
  • Anyone can access the home atrium in the South stand with a home ticket
  • There is a shortlist of hotel partners for the 4/5* hotel, most likely a large US brand such as Hilton or Marriott
  • Family section has not been locked down, but is likely to be in the north stand upper, although there are concerns of locating families close to the away fans
  • The hard hat tour area which will be opened up shortly is just a viewing platform in the north stand 4th floor, the views are great but you can't really see into the internals of the stadium

The H Club
  • Will attempt to obtain Michelin star for the food
  • Partnering with Roux family
  • £15k joining fee and £15k annual cost; tickets must be purchased in pairs and as for all corporate tickets a minimum period of 3 years must be signed up for and tickets must be purchased in pairs
  • Somelier and cheese waiter will be on hand to assist
  • Other celebrity chefs will be brought in to cook for guests, they are really trying to make this the premium lounge offering at any sporting stadium in Europe
  • There are 3 dining options; informal, fine dining and chefs table

The Tunnel Club
  • Club did not expect such high demand, 90% of the 104 tickets have already been sold
  • £15k joining fee and £9.5k per season
  • Seats will be the same as what the players/manager sit in, will be heated recaros with USB jacks
  • This has been contentious with the players as they really do not want to be watched in the tunnel...

The Sky Lounge
  • Exactly mirrored West and East stands, although you may not transfer between the stands
  • You will not be able to stay in the lounge during the match and electronic blinds will cover the windows during each half to ensure that we comply with FA regulations
  • The roof of the Sky Lounge is the roof of the stadium and looks amazing
  • 260 people will be in each lounge
  • Tapas style food will be offered

Premium Seats
  • Marketed as a Club Wembley and Arsenal Club level style package, but more premium
  • Concourses look great and they're trying to break them up into individual seating areas, bar areas and eating areas
  • Huge range of food will be available for purchase, from a free finger food buffet up to fine dining options
  • Get a free drink at half time, much like Arsenal Club seats
  • Not enough seating for everyone in here
  • Consists of approximately 6,000 out of the 8,000 hospitality seats in the stadium

General hospitality
  • Although the tickets are selling well the sales people have been under a lot of pressure given that this is a key financing area of the build; I think there were c. 2.5k corporate seats at WHL, so to increase that to 8k is a huge undertaking
  • DL wants the entire stadium to be of a corporate hospitality level, the fit and finish will be exceptional throughout
  • You may arrive up to 3 hours before the game and leave up to 2 hours post game
  • The club are trying to get all visitors to arrive at the ground significantly prior to kick off, this is to both boost stadium income and remove the stain on public transport. Expect various activities etc throughout the GA areas
  • There will be a VIP shuttle bus from Alexandra Palace and Tottenham Hale bus stations for corporate hospitality ticket holders; these buses may use the bus lanes. There may also be an option of parking at the training ground and getting a bus in, although I highly doubt this is practical
  • You may get priority seat allocation for certain non-football events, but this depends on the partners specific to each event
Sounds absolutely amazing.

I'll miss the old girl a lot, but I guess we have outgrown her. I know in my head this is the next step for the club but the thought of leaving WHL is already starting to make me feel a little sad and prematurely nostalgic. Coincidentally I have remarkably similar event happening in my own life. We are selling the big old house I grew up in and I am in the process of building a stossy new place. My heart is broken at thought of handing over the keys to someone else as the old house was a true home to us, and indeed all my fairly large extended family at one time or another. The end of an epoch.

I didn't visit WHL a ton of times, certainly not as much as I would have liked, but each trip there was a pilgrimage to me. I'm sure I won't make it back now with the number of games dwindling (and finances stretched). I'll raise a glass to her when she is gone.

Do we have a WHL memories thread? We should.
 
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