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Toby Alderweireld

Jurgen the German said:
All "projects" need great players to succeed. All teams that have been successful in the last 10 years have had great players; RM, Barca, Dortmund, Bayern etc. They didn't win because of a "project".
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Well Barca have a philosophy which stems form the project which was to bing through their own youth... that led to better players... which led to mroe money and then mroe investment

Madrid’s project is simply to buy what they perceive to be the best

Bayern’s is buy the best the other teams have in their league
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Well Barca have a philosophy which stems form the project which was to bing through their own youth... that led to better players... which led to mroe money and then mroe investment

Madrid’s project is simply to buy what they perceive to be the best

Bayern’s is buy the best the other teams have in their league
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True but Barca also had Messi. Not to mention Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets.

Bayern buying their rivals players is a prime example of why we shouldn't even consider selling Toby to an English club.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Not quite double. Stones, Otamendi, Walker, Bellerin, Kolasinac, Cahill, Luiz, Valencia to name a few are all on £100k a week or more.
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Someone did post comparable centre back wages earlier in this and I thought the average was £80k

Either way he is after a massive massive increases and a contract that takes him until he is 33
 
Jurgen the German said:
True but Barca also had Messi. Not to mention Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets.

Bayern buying their rivals players is a prime example of why we shouldn't even consider selling Toby to an English club.
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We should, if the price is right, anything else would be madness. I´m glad that the club is run by Levy and not by some of you.
 
All aspects of value have to be calculated. How many days a season the man is available for work will impact that. Walker was a different story in so much as there were personal reasons for him wanting to be in the North. Poch (perhaps foolishly?) sanctioned the move based on a variety of factors, not least of which was the person himself. Call it what you will, and I understand all sides, but personally, I think the knock-on effect of seeing that your manager is a human being too only strengthens your overall hand. I can assure you that when it came to Dier being tapped up last summer, this was most certainly the case. Any other manager and he’d have been off, I promise you.


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thfcsteff said:
All aspects of value have to be calculated. How many days a season the man is available for work will impact that. Walker was a different story in so much as there were personal reasons for him wanting to be in the North. Poch (perhaps foolishly?) sanctioned the move based on a variety of factors, not least of which was the person himself. Call it what you will, and I understand all sides, but personally, I think the knock-on effect of seeing that your manager is a human being too only strengthens your overall hand. I can assure you that when it came to Dier being tapped up last summer, this was most certainly the case. Any other manager and he’d have been off, I promise you.


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More of your anti-Poch agenda :rolleyes:


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harr1984 said:
Exactly. We might not of really weakened ourselves selling Walker, but City certainly became stronger having him as full back...
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Whilst that's a fair argument and one i certainly do consider you also have to weigh up how we can improve the squad with the extra money from a domestic sale v what we can do with a lesser amount from abroad - two things to consider and if the former means we can secure a higher target for ourselves then our opponents improving may be a worthy trade-off
 
When I think of the Toby situation I always chuckle to myself when I consider Hugo and Harry are our only current players who earn more than Sissoko. Definitely not Sissoko's thought, but it makes me think we got something so wrong
 
NaijaSpurs said:
When I think of the Toby situation I always chuckle to myself when I consider Hugo and Harry are our only current players who earn more than Sissoko. Definitely not Sissoko's thought, but it makes me think we got something so wrong
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Do you actually know this? Far as I’m aware you just see the media throwing figures of a players salary out there, how do you that’s anymore factual than the rest of the nonsense they print? Happy to be told otherwise....
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I’d sell him for £10m less abroad no probs
Stop strengthening the teams were trying to beat
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Agree with this pretty much. Selling a certain calibre of player to your rivals is acceptable if the fee is high enough. Selling someone of Alderweireld's ability to a top 6 rival would be folly in the extreme.

If he wants money PSG would be more than happy to oblige I would think. If it is guaranteed trophies then Barca. Real Madrid can go fudge off.
 
If only life was so straight forward.

Say Toby wants to go to and has been tapped up like Walker but this time to say Manchester United and it is by some distance the best bid?
 
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