• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

Time to remove Lineker from the Hall of Fame?

milo said:
I don't agree. Sven might've had some better players, debatable, but Venables team had a better balance.
Click to expand...

Interesting. Venables team had maybe a better left-sided operator in McManaman and a midfielder in Gazza who could actually do what playmakers are expected to.
However, Sven's team was more battle-hardened and had better defenders: it's hard to know how well Venables team would have done if they were not playing on home soil. You have to remember that they only won two games out of five in 90 mins.
 
glorygloryeze said:
Interesting. Venables team had maybe a better left-sided operator in McManaman and a midfielder in Gazza who could actually do what playmakers are expected to.
However, Sven's team was more battle-hardened and had better defenders: it's hard to know how well Venables team would have done if they were not playing on home soil. You have to remember that they only won two games out of five in 90 mins.
Click to expand...

Let's compare the teams from the first game in Euro 96 and the 2002 World Cup

1996

Seaman
G. Neville
Adams
Southgate
Pearce
Anderton
Ince
Gascoigne
Mcmanaman
Sheringham
Shearer

2002

Seaman
Mills
Ferdinand
Campbell
Cole
Beckham
Scholes
Hargreaves
Heskey
Vassell
Owen
 
milo said:
Let's compare the teams from the first game in Euro 96 and the 2002 World Cup

1996

Seaman
G. Neville
Adams
Southgate
Pearce
Anderton
Ince
Gascoigne
Mcmanaman
Sheringham
Shearer

2002

Seaman
Mills
Ferdinand
Campbell
Cole
Beckham
Scholes
Hargreaves
Heskey
Vassell
Owen
Click to expand...

I'd say the Euro 96 team would be better, but I think a better comparison would be the teams that started either Euro 2004 or World Cup 2006...
 
milo said:
Let's compare the teams from the first game in Euro 96 and the 2002 World Cup

1996

Seaman
G. Neville
Adams
Southgate
Pearce
Anderton
Ince
Gascoigne
Mcmanaman
Sheringham
Shearer

2002

Seaman
Mills
Ferdinand
Campbell
Cole
Beckham
Scholes
Hargreaves
Heskey
Vassell
Owen
Click to expand...

The team in our opening match in 2006 was

Robinson
G. Neville
Ferdinand
Terry
Cole
Beckham
Gerrard
Lampard
Cole
Owen
Crouch
 
glorygloryeze said:
I'd say the Euro 96 team would be better, but I think a better comparison would be the teams that started either Euro 2004 or World Cup 2006...
Click to expand...

I've just posted the 06 team. I think that you're into the good players, poor balance period then.
 
milo said:
I've just posted the 06 team. I think that you're into the good players, poor balance period then.
Click to expand...

Yeah, the shoehorning of Lampard and Gerrard, just because, was crippling.
I think a more systems oriented manager would have got more out of that team, especially if they'd bean able to keep Scholes interested. Oh for 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 then eh...
 
glorygloryeze said:
Yeah, the shoehorning of Lampard and Gerrard, just because, was crippling.
I think a more systems oriented manager would have got more out of that team, especially if they'd bean able to keep Scholes interested. Oh for 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 then eh...
Click to expand...

Joe Cole on the left never really worked either.

Wasn't 06 the tournament Rooney was selected but was coming back from injury and Walcott was picked without ever playing in the PL?
 
milo said:
Joe Cole on the left never really worked either.

Wasn't 06 the tournament Rooney was selected but was coming back from injury and Walcott was picked without ever playing in the PL?
Click to expand...

Yes it was ( and the other forward was a giraffe) and Beckham just coming back from injury as well. That was the end of my love affair with my support for England. Golden Generation was a joke.
 
parklane1 said:
Yes it was ( and the other forward was a giraffe) and Beckham just coming back from injury as well. That was the end of my love affair with my support for England. Golden Generation was a joke.
Click to expand...
It was just weak management IMO. It would never happen, but had we got Jose in charge in 2006 then England would have had another trophy, it may not have been pretty, but we’d have one.
 
parklane1 said:
Yes it was ( and the other forward was a giraffe) and Beckham just coming back from injury as well. That was the end of my love affair with my support for England. Golden Generation was a joke.
Click to expand...

Good players but a badly balanced team. Everyone wanted to be a star and not enough water carriers to create a base to build from.
 
ah, euro 96, great time in my life, just finished Uni, young, free and single, none of the middle age stresses I have now, should have won that tournament, that slide from gazza, one kebab too many.....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back