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Time to outlaw the tactical foul?

Gutter Boy said:
It becomes completely a non-contact sport if you do that.

You'd also end the concept of high lines - so basically the game would return to about the year 1990, with everyone defending catenaccio
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Yeah, I was partly joking. It's annoying though. Should definitely be yellow card offenses at least.
 
Lol, is this a thread copied over from RAWK?

We are as good (bad?) as anyone at administering the 'tactical foul'.
Stop whining people and deal with it!
 
Spur of the moment said:
If that's all you care about, fine.

Pulisball for you then eh?
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Lol so dramatic - because there is no middle ground

Emirates Marketing Project play the some of the best football in the league, do you want to brand them pulisball as well?

And yes, I would accept that style of play depending on the situation
 
glorygloryeze said:
Lol, is this a thread copied over from RAWK?

We are as good (bad?) as anyone at administering the 'tactical foul'.
Stop whining people and deal with it!
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That may well be so but as things stand, the tactical foul is not even an automatic booking, with the PL refs seemingly to me at least, more lenient to it than in the other big Leagues across Europe?

I also remember many years back, debating the pass back tactic.. Goalie holds the ball then rolls it out to one his defenders.. An opponent approaches the defender with the ball, defender passes back to his goalkeeper..Once the opponent retreats , another defender usually on the other flank would sprint back towards his goalkeeper - rinse repeat..

Shankley's Liverpool teams were the originators of the repeated pass-back to the goalkeeper and they went on to win the trophies, many teams naturally copied them and, many football matches became stale , a hard watch..

I remember debating the pass-back, I also remember Liverpool and Arsenal fans telling me to stop whining ..
 
wiziwig said:
That may well be so but as things stand, the tactical foul is not even an automatic booking, with the PL refs seemingly to me at least, more lenient to it than in the other big Leagues across Europe?

I also remember many years back, debating the pass back tactic.. Goalie holds the ball then rolls it out to one his defenders.. An opponent approaches the defender with the ball, defender passes back to his goalkeeper..Once the opponent retreats , another defender usually on the other flank would sprint back towards his goalkeeper - rinse repeat..

Shankley's Liverpool teams were the originators of the repeated pass-back to the goalkeeper and they went on to win the trophies, many teams naturally copied them and, many football matches became stale , a hard watch..

I remember debating the pass-back, I also remember Liverpool and Arsenal fans telling me to stop whining ..
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A foul is a foul. If it's yellow card offence that will attract a yellow card. Many fouls that result in yellow cards are tactical fouls so i think is it whining to talk about whether tactical fouls should get yellow cards or not (how does one even define a tactical foul?)
We'd no doubt be right up there with City and other top teams when it comes to this so i honestly think we'd better be careful how much we go on about it tbh
 
I do think this is another situation whereas the rules as written are actually fine, it's just that they are not being enforced correctly or consistently.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Non league are trailing sin bins this season by the way. They are highly effective in the ones I've played in where they've been used - generally turning the game entirely/resulting in at least one goal during the 6 minutes
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This. I didn't realise that was happening, but it's awesome news. a few minutes off for a yellow card would really sort out a few things, professional fouls being one of them. Just another thing for the 3rd (4th?) official to keep track of, which shouldn't pose a problem in the professional game.

Not that it'll ever actually happen, of course. Bloody Luddites.
 
Surely anything that happens on the pitch is tactical? Fouls are either accidental where a player is beaten by pace or skill and mistimes the tackle or deliberate when a player cannot win the ball and hits player. If you think VAR is a problem defining tactical fouls will be a nightmare. Back in the dark ages your first tackle was usually an opportunity to hit your opponent and let them know you were the boss, not much of a tactical master-plan but it worked for me.
 
wiziwig said:
That may well be so but as things stand, the tactical foul is not even an automatic booking, with the PL refs seemingly to me at least, more lenient to it than in the other big Leagues across Europe?

I also remember many years back, debating the pass back tactic.. Goalie holds the ball then rolls it out to one his defenders.. An opponent approaches the defender with the ball, defender passes back to his goalkeeper..Once the opponent retreats , another defender usually on the other flank would sprint back towards his goalkeeper - rinse repeat..

Shankley's Liverpool teams were the originators of the repeated pass-back to the goalkeeper and they went on to win the trophies, many teams naturally copied them and, many football matches became stale , a hard watch..

I remember debating the pass-back, I also remember Liverpool and Arsenal fans telling me to stop whining ..
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Yeah the best change to football in my lifetime was to stop keepers picking up backpasses.

I also like the new goal kick freedoms though, as it’s improves the flow of the game.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Surely anything that happens on the pitch is tactical? Fouls are either accidental where a player is beaten by pace or skill and mistimes the tackle or deliberate when a player cannot win the ball and hits player. If you think VAR is a problem defining tactical fouls will be a nightmare. Back in the dark ages your first tackle was usually an opportunity to hit your opponent and let them know you were the boss, not much of a tactical master-plan but it worked for me.
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Yep, a kind of " welcome to the game son" now if you want to avoid more of that go play on the other side of the pitch.
 
Actually think this is one of those impossible to implement on the field, i.e. ref's interpretation opens a dangerous door.

My proposal would be retroactive analysis of fouls above a certain about (10/15/whatever), with some view of was the ball played, was it purely tactical/professional, pitch position (transition of play) with some penalty like suspension.

Video review is going to be part of the game, use it against teams that persistently break the rules as a part of their play style.
 
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