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This boards view on *alleged* racist behaviour
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K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Ian Walker
Never mind the BBC have accepted they didn't mention there appeared to be no evidence of the racist incident and have edited that section of the film for 2 or 3 sad gits who watch the one show on their i-player (is this digital medias equivalent of bottom of column 4 page 11 in a newspaper).
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
Good. But we should be after Sky Sports too. Tyler and Neville handled the situation appallingly.
Mikey10
Jimmy Neighbour
This clown is still at it.
THERE WAS ZERO EVIDENCE OF ANY RACIST COMMENTS FROM TOTTENHAM FANS!
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-abuse-goes-unpunished?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
THERE WAS ZERO EVIDENCE OF ANY RACIST COMMENTS FROM TOTTENHAM FANS!
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-abuse-goes-unpunished?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
They've just stuck up for him on BBC Breakfast. It doesn't help in the fight against racism black players face, they reckon. No mention of him making stuff up undermining real racism and that he accused, falsely, a huge amount of people of being the dreaded R word.
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milo
Jack L. Jones
We don't know that he made stuff up. The police and club couldn't find evidence to support his claims, that's different from saying that it didn't happen.
benp
Reto Ziegler
I think whether the crowd is racist is surely a matter of perspective, not one which can be objectively decided?
I mean, I don't think I'd be wildly away from the mark with the statement "Most black Britons feel they live in a racist country". If that is true, then from that perspective, surely most of the crowd at football matches are racist, and Rudiger hasn't undermined any fight against real racism. I'm a spurs fan for gods sake and I think it's more likely it happened than it didn't.
Nobody came forward because nobody else has a mental issue that causes them to hear non-existent racists, you fudging halfwit.
That's a bit like saying you can't disprove GHod. Whilst in a strictly logical sense you can't, you can use the fact that it's so overwhelmingly unlikely that referring to it as entirely made up is a very good approximation.
What's a more interesting question for me, is whether he's a mistaken clam or a lying clam. The fact that he keeps bringing this brick up is making me lean towards the latter.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
You don't believe in the principle of innocent until proven guilty?
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
How many people in the crowd, and stewards in front of them, would hear it, in order for Rudiger to be able to hear it? It would have to be a lot. Nothing picked up on TV sound?
Has there been an actual Police statement?
a spur from swansea
Naybet
He's a cheat full stop and what he did to Son....we all saw how he reacted on the pitch ,giving it the eye when he was on the floor,waiting for the ref to decide what to do,and just to cover himself and for his actions he gets the race card out and even now he brings it up,people give him the bird because he's a cheater full stop... the race thing doesn't come into it at all .
Not one bit of evidence has proven his accusations...nothing....why doesn't he come out and apologise and say he was wrong ,he be applauded for that stance and he may also think in not being such a taco in the meantime in trying to get fellow professionals sent off...
Not one bit of evidence has proven his accusations...nothing....why doesn't he come out and apologise and say he was wrong ,he be applauded for that stance and he may also think in not being such a taco in the meantime in trying to get fellow professionals sent off...
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Ah, but he deals with that in the interview. Unlike the Cheatski fans who reported one of their own fan's racial abuse of Son, all those Tottenham fans you refer to heard it but did nothing, didn't report it. So anyone who was nearby this seemingly non-existent incident is also racist now.
We should send him a tinfoil hat for his birthday on behalf of all Spurs fans, the TV companies, the Met Police, Spurs and everyone else involved in the conspiracy.
Junior19
Øyvind Leonhardsen
I don't blame Rudiger for wanting to tackle racism. If there is racism at our stadium, be it from our fans or the opposition fans, it should be dealt with, swiftly.
However, what I react to here is his absolute total lack of willingness to even consider the slightest possibility that he may have misheard/misunderstood. And what's more, I react to the medias total lack of backbone to ask the question to him.
"Mr. Rudiger, is it a possiblity that you misheard the "cheats"-chants for monkey-noises?" He can then either say why he clearly did not, or say that it is a chance, however slight the chance may be in his view.
But this is such a minefield for the media that they will never do that. Even if it had been to his benefit.
If only just to remove the speculation and seeding ground for this rubbish kind of discussions.
However, what I react to here is his absolute total lack of willingness to even consider the slightest possibility that he may have misheard/misunderstood. And what's more, I react to the medias total lack of backbone to ask the question to him.
"Mr. Rudiger, is it a possiblity that you misheard the "cheats"-chants for monkey-noises?" He can then either say why he clearly did not, or say that it is a chance, however slight the chance may be in his view.
But this is such a minefield for the media that they will never do that. Even if it had been to his benefit.
If only just to remove the speculation and seeding ground for this rubbish kind of discussions.
Mikey10
Jimmy Neighbour
If it happened I fail to see how CCTV (and you’d have to imagine ours is amongst the best in-stadium CCTV in the world - after all, it was able to pick up the racist comments towards Son from the Chelsea fan) didn’t show up any racist comments in the area Rudiger indicated, despite being scrutinised by the club and the police.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Did CCTV pick up on the abuse towards Son? I haven't heard anything more about that other than racist abuse was reported and someone was arrested. I don't know what happened beyond that, and whether there was enough evidence for the to be charged? I am suspecting not as it would have been a big thing I'd have thought?
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Yeah a guy was charged im sure
Rudiger is even using that as part of his argument
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
OK, I wasn’t sure. Rudiger’s quotes in the Guardian only mention arrest but maybe it did lead to a charge and it’s gone quiet until the case is finished.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Charged follows arrest so I assume it’s going ahead