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The Stats Thread

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Bishop said:
That could be a bit of a short sighted view if there are underlying issues that the basics stats don't reveal. We've previously had teams that looked good in terms of goals for ana against but the underlying numbers were concerning and in the long run that truth did come to pass.

I'm not saying that's the case this time but just that we do need to be aware that sometimes a pretty or pleasant facade can hide ugly truths.
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If we keep winning it's not much of an issue, is it?
 
Kandi1977 said:
If we keep winning it's not much of an issue, is it?
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Nope, but that's the concern. The stats suggest that we might not keeping winning if those underlying stats bare out. It's happened before primarily under Mourinho, we had some pretty good results initially but the underlying figures were concerning and many ppl at the time had a flippant "if we are winning what's the problem?" attitude and then the those stats did play out and we saw the results begin to nosedive.

Again to be clear I'm not suggesting it's all a house of cards. I've been quite happy with how we've done so far, but seeing those stats in a collated form does leave me with some concerns. It's not often that a team can out perform the underlying stats over the long term.
 
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Whilst the Horseshoe-Of-Death certainly don’t help, the fact that most of our Through-Ball passers over the past 2 seasons have been unavailable to Frank is also a mitigating factor.

Looking at official EPL site, 58% of the 149 through-balls we played during Ange’s tenure were made by players who haven’t been available this season.

Maddison - 12 & 14
Kulusevski - 11 & 12
Sonny - 4 & 17
Porro - 4 & 14
Romero - 4 & 6
Bentancur - 4 & 4
Sarr - 1 & 6
Bissouma - 2 & 3
Werner - 2 & 2
Davies - 1 & 3
Solanke - 3 & 0
Dragusin - 1 & 1
Hojbjerg - 0 & 2
Tel - 2 & 0
Spence - 2 & 0
Richarlison - 0 & 2
Solomon - & 1
Reguilon - & 1
Gray - 1 & 0
 
SteveAWOL said:
Whilst the Horseshoe-Of-Death certainly don’t help, the fact that most of our Through-Ball passers over the past 2 seasons have been unavailable to Frank is also a mitigating factor.

Looking at official EPL site, 58% of the 149 through-balls we played during Ange’s tenure were made by players who haven’t been available this season.

Maddison - 12 & 14
Kulusevski - 11 & 12
Sonny - 4 & 17
Porro - 4 & 14
Romero - 4 & 6
Bentancur - 4 & 4
Sarr - 1 & 6
Bissouma - 2 & 3
Werner - 2 & 2
Davies - 1 & 3
Solanke - 3 & 0
Dragusin - 1 & 1
Hojbjerg - 0 & 2
Tel - 2 & 0
Spence - 2 & 0
Richarlison - 0 & 2
Solomon - & 1
Reguilon - & 1
Gray - 1 & 0
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imagine if we'd gotten MGW and Eze
 
SteveAWOL said:
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Another year we won a trophy.

My response to your post on three year records in another thread:
SteveAWOL said:
Looking back through our 3 year (114 PL games) rolling form and it would appear that Crooked Joe’s kids have truly brought us back to where we were before Levy, so mediocre managers combined with limited players would seem like a natural progression as the negative spiral fully takes hold and our rebuild becomes ever more painful…

Feb 2023-current:
13th) Won 41 Drawn 22 Lost 51 For 196 Against 193 Diff +3 Points 145
2020-2023:
5th) Won 60 Drawn 20 Lost 34 For 203 Against 133 Diff +70 Points 200
2017-2020:
3rd) Won 67 Drawn 17 Lost 13 For 218 Against 117 Diff +101 Points 218
2014-2017:
4th) Won 60 Drawn 29 Lost 25 For 199 Against 126 Diff +73 Points 209
2011-2014:
5th) Won 59 Drawn 29 Lost 26 For 185 Against 135 Diff +50 Points 206
2008-2011:
5th) Won 51 Drawn 29 Lost 34 For 167 Against 133 Diff +34 Points 182
2005-2008:
6th) Won 46 Drawn 32 Lost 36 For 171 Against 148 Diff -+23 Points 170
2002-2005:
11th) Won 41 Drawn 23 Lost 50 For 143 Against 166 Diff -23 Points 146
1999-2002:
8th) Won 42 Drawn 25 Lost 47 For 157 Against 157 Diff 0 Points 151
1996-1999:
12th) Won 36 Drawn 34 Lost 44 For 137 Against 152 Diff -15 Points 142
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We won trophies in the two worst three-year periods.
 
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