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markysimmo said:
Fury has said he has to knock Wilder out as he wont' get a points decision in the US
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I think that's a huge ask to be honest. Fury is not noted as a concussive puncher, and Wilder seems reasonably durable - not the obvious ingredients for a Fury knock out.

Fury has kept proving me wrong so far (I picked both Klitschko and Wilder to beat him) and I hope he does it again, but I'm going with Wilder. I'm not sure everything is spot-on with Fury this time, what with the cut and the late-stage change of trainer. I don't know whether he's being serious or not about going for the knock out, but I'd imagine the odds are it would only hasten his downfall if he is.

Wilder by KO for me.
 
Parklaner81 said:
I think that's a huge ask to be honest. Fury is not noted as a concussive puncher, and Wilder seems reasonably durable - not the obvious ingredients for a Fury knock out.

Fury has kept proving me wrong so far (I picked both Klitschko and Wilder to beat him) and I hope he does it again, but I'm going with Wilder. I'm not sure everything is spot-on with Fury this time, what with the cut and the late-stage change of trainer. I don't know whether he's being serious or not about going for the knock out, but I'd imagine the odds are it would only hasten his downfall if he is.

Wilder by KO for me.
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Fury (AND HIS FATHER, VERY LOUDLY) keep saying its KO time BUT seriously whats the point?

Some of the pundits saying Wilder will up his game and you see a different level from him, seriously?

Wilder has limited skills, probably as he cant really be bothered to learn any when you have a sledgehammer of a right hand thats served you everytime.

And that leads back to Fury's plan, why open up and leave yourself open to a deadly hitter, when your alternative plan of boxing his ears off looks easy to execute 1.Because he is a great boxer and 2.Wilder is a brick boxer.

He'll get the decision if its obvious. If he didn't get floored at the end of the last bout hed have won? (although he should have won even with the knock down)
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Fury (AND HIS FATHER, VERY LOUDLY) keep saying its KO time BUT seriously whats the point?

Some of the pundits saying Wilder will up his game and you see a different level from him, seriously?

Wilder has limited skills, probably as he cant really be bothered to learn any when you have a sledgehammer of a right hand thats served you everytime.

And that leads back to Fury's plan, why open up and leave yourself open to a deadly hitter, when your alternative plan of boxing his ears off looks easy to execute 1.Because he is a great boxer and 2.Wilder is a brick boxer.

He'll get the decision if its obvious. If he didn't get floored at the end of the last bout hed have won? (although he should have won even with the knock down)
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Yeah I'd agree that the talk of not being able to get a decision is bogus. Fury went out to Germany of all places with the express aim of winning a decision, so he doesn't seem the sort to be put off by such concerns.

I actually think Wilder was slightly overawed by the occasion last time though. He'll have gained confidence from the two wins he's had since (one of which was blasting out another highly skilled, if overconfident boxer). Can the same be said of Fury? I'm not so sure.

I can easily enough see it going either way, but I just lean to Wilder.
 
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Parklaner81 said:
Yeah I'd agree that the talk of not being able to get a decision is bogus. Fury went out to Germany of all places with the express aim of winning a decision, so he doesn't seem the sort to be put off by such concerns.

I actually think Wilder was slightly overawed by the occasion last time though. He'll have gained confidence from the two wins he's had since (one of which was blasting out another highly skilled, if overconfident, boxer). Can the same be said of Fury? I'm not so sure.

I can easily enough see it going either way, but I just lean to Wilder.
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As in him clouting Fury and him not getting up this time?
 
Parklaner81 said:
Yeah I think Wilder by KO/stoppage is the most likely outcome. I hope I'm wrong though. & if Fury does win by KO, I'll never back against him again :D
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The thing that might help Fury in this fight is Wilder banged him deep deep into the last fight, a fight Fury was not fully tuned up for. And he got up. Look at those pictures where Wilder thought it was good night and blowing Fury a kiss off his glove. Then cut to the moment Fury got up, there's a wtf omg moment look on Wilders face as he literally sees the resurrection of someone he put to sleep. That moment can easily plague Wilders mind as the 'usual' might not work with this guy.
 
Something doesn't feel right with Fury, the change in trainer and fighting so soon after that big cut as well as lots of promotional distractions like WWE and his book. Hope he pulls it out, I find him entertaining and love his interviews.
 
Don’t rate Fury or Wilder as great fighters, ok, but not great, one can’t punch but can box, the other can punch and not box. Joshua would beat either of them 8 times out of 10, Fury would win a couple on points and Wilder would get a couple of KO’s.
 
Parklaner81 said:
Is it me, or do the Wilder/Fury press conference scuffles have a slightly staged feel about them...?
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They are all a bit pointless to be honest. They have been doing so many press conferences and different interviews in recent days that there is nothing left to say really. There should just be one big presser when the fight agreement is signed and then another in the days building up before the fight. It's all just for PPV buys etc.
 
dingdongo said:
They are all a bit pointless to be honest. They have been doing so many press conferences and different interviews in recent days that there is nothing left to say really. There should just be one big presser when the fight agreement is signed and then another in the days building up before the fight. It's all just for PPV buys etc.
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Indeed and I assume it must work as they always do it.
 
I think alot of it is game mode, when the flight gets closer the weeks of training and everything goes its fight mode.
 
When it really, genuinely kicks off between two fighters at a press conference though security will usually intervene at light speed. Watch how Fury, after being shoved, is able to casually walk across and shove Wilder back well before anyone else gets involved...

I don't know, as I said earlier maybe it's me but it just seems to have a different feel to a few other press conference kick-offs I've seen over the years.
 
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Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury will not face off at Friday's weigh-in as organisers of their rematch move to prevent any possible on-stage clash.

Fury, 31, and WBC world heavyweight champion Wilder pushed one another at a news conference before their 2018 bout.

They did so again at a news conference on Wednesday, when organisers were left frustrated by the time it took for security to intervene.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission has now chosen to scrap the face off.

At Wednesday's news conference, Briton Fury and American Wilder, 34, pushed each other before interviews began. When they were asked to square up again after the media event, promoter Bob Arum shouted "no".

The pair are being tipped to achieve two million pay-per-view sales priced at $74.99 in the US.

As a result, the commission sanctioning the bout has acted with caution as any injury or incident that could lead to a postponement would see organisers lose out on millions of dollars.

"I think this is a big deal, a lot of people have invested in this fight, a lot of people will be here, a lot of flights and tickets sold," Wilder said. "They don't want anything to jeopardise this fight and I'm fine with the decision."

The fight has seen parallels drawn with iconic bouts of the past, including Lennox Lewis' fight with Mike Tyson in Memphis in 2002. On that occasion the former heavyweight world champions weighed in three hours apart in a bid to avoid a clash.

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Wilder and Fury clashed at the main pre-fight press conference on Wednesday
Lewis is in Sin City as a television analyst and on Thursday, told BBC Radio 5 Live he believes Fury is taking a risk if he chases the early knockout he has promised.

Fury rose from the canvas in the ninth and 12th rounds when he drew with Wilder in Los Angeles 15 months ago and has threatened to move away from his usual evasive style.

"I believe he may go out and try to take Deontay on," Lewis told the 5 Live Boxing Podcast.

"You have to remember, he rose in the 12th round after being knocked down and attacked Deontay. He looked strong, maybe this may transcend into the next fight with him knowing 'I was strong last time, maybe I can take him out'.

"I have seen Deontay punch, he has that killer instinct and a right hand that comes from anywhere, so he [Tyson] is taking a chance."

Wilder, who has held the WBC title for over five years, has one of the most feared right hands in boxing history and has a 95% knockout ratio, the highest of any world heavyweight champion.

"If that's the only punch I have to worry about, that's the only punch that will not hit me," Lewis added when breaking the bout down for 5 Live.

"I've been in fights with guys with a great left hook. I've thought OK, I'll practice walking around with my right hand glued to my chin so the left hook can't get me.

"The first fight was filled with drama. Here we are seeing it again, excited, and we still don't know what's going to happen.

"It's the puncher or the boxer. If the boxer stays away from the puncher, the boxer wins. If the puncher gets through, he wins."

Fury and Wilder will weigh in at about 23:00 GMT on Friday, with thousands of fans set to attend at the MGM's Grand Garden Arena.
 
Fury seems slightly heavy to me. Does this suggest his talk of wanting a knock out was serious? He still has to stay out of the way of Wilder's bombs, which I'd imagine will be a little more difficult at 19 and a half stone.

Not seeing anything here to change my expectation of a Wilder KO.
 
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