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The Official 2018/19 Premier League Thread

glorygloryeze said:
Ohhh...sneaky.....do we have the same??
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Yep. Looks like the only reason not to be on the official poppy site was concern about diluting the channel strategy.
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He's also wearing the kind of grey trackie top normally issued to underlings by Bond villains, except that this one has been scribbled on in purple crayon.

So I don't think we have to follow his lead.
 
milo said:
How much of a bellend would you have to be to only buy a poppy if it had your football club crest on it?
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Indeed yes, if that were the only reason for buying a poppy then your description would be apt. But I don’t believe that would be the case.
For most people it will be instead of what they would have bought anyway or, for many, it will be in addition to the paper poppy. Either way it’s more money for the charity.
I don’t see the harm (or crassness) in it at all.
(And the thing I do like about ours is it does not have the club name on it, just the badger emblem).
 
parklane1 said:
If it encourages more folks to give money to the appeal i do not see what harm it is.
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I think that the poppy and football thing has got completely out of hand this last ten years. It is a very recent phenomenon and there are very few links between the two. It is undoubtedly a good cause but that doesn't mean that this is a good idea. Take That poppies would probably sell well too, I'd think that they were crass too.
 
milo said:
I think that the poppy and football thing has got completely out of hand this last ten years. It is a very recent phenomenon and there are very few links between the two. It is undoubtedly a good cause but that doesn't mean that this is a good idea. Take That poppies would probably sell well too, I'd think that they were crass too.
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It’s probably a good cause. As in, the RBL presumably do good work. I’m ambivalent about poppies, though. It’s not clear enough whether they are celebratory or elegiac. And there’s something unsatisfactory about commemorating later deaths, in justifiable wars, with iconography from WW1, which was indefensible.

When the semiotics are so confused, mixing them up with unrelated symbols of tribalist loyalty is definitely a bad idea, and more so than Take That poppies would be. It definitely suggests that the emblem is glorifying rather than lamenting the sacrifice, and in the context of the WW1 centenary that feels spectacularly wrong.
 
ShipOfGoldblum said:
It’s probably a good cause. As in, the RBL presumably do good work. I’m ambivalent about poppies, though. It’s not clear enough whether they are celebratory or elegiac. And there’s something unsatisfactory about commemorating later deaths, in justifiable wars, with iconography from WW1, which was indefensible.

When the semiotics are so confused, mixing them up with unrelated symbols of tribalist loyalty is definitely a bad idea, and more so than Take That poppies would be. It definitely suggests that the emblem is glorifying rather than lamenting the sacrifice, and in the context of the WW1 centenary that feels spectacularly wrong.
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I'd be interested in knowing how Poch wearing one is viewed in Argentina.
 
milo said:
I think that the poppy and football thing has got completely out of hand this last ten years. It is a very recent phenomenon and there are very few links between the two. It is undoubtedly a good cause but that doesn't mean that this is a good idea. Take That poppies would probably sell well too, I'd think that they were crass too.
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Well Stop! Hammer time, as i say anything that gets folks to stick their hands into giving for these type of things is ok for me. Yer p ays y er money and takes your choice.
 
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ShipOfGoldblum said:
It’s probably a good cause. As in, the RBL presumably do good work. I’m ambivalent about poppies, though. It’s not clear enough whether they are celebratory or elegiac. And there’s something unsatisfactory about commemorating later deaths, in justifiable wars, with iconography from WW1, which was indefensible.

When the semiotics are so confused, mixing them up with unrelated symbols of tribalist loyalty is definitely a bad idea, and more so than Take That poppies would be. It definitely suggests that the emblem is glorifying rather than lamenting the sacrifice, and in the context of the WW1 centenary that feels spectacularly wrong.
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elegiac.
a : of, relating to, or consisting of two dactylic hexameter lines the second of which lacks the arsis in the third and sixth feet.
b : sad for old stuff.

Learned a new word :)
 
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ShipOfGoldblum said:
Yeah, should just have said mournful instead of giving it the big iamb.
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iamb (/ˈaɪæm/) or iambus is a metrical foot used in various types of poetry. Originally the term referred to one of the feet of the quantitative meter of classical Greek prosody: a short syllable followed by a long syllable (as in "above").

Learned a new word :)
 
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