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The Limp Struggle to Sneak into the top 4 2021/22

Robbo said:
I won’t go full on tinfoil hat here, but it really is incredible that there aren't any regulations in place to at least try to even these things out. Like a rule that says it has to be at least 72 hours between games. That would push the Burnley game a few more hours later that Sunday, which would be more acceptable in comparison to Arse playing on Monday.

These things will never be 100 % equal (unless all games kick off at the same time every round), but a set limit will at least create some sort of fairness and predictability for all clubs.
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The 72 hour thing I think makes sense, or at least as close to that as possible. We could have played Burnley on Sunday evening for example

That said, a few weeks back Arsenal had a short turn-arund too...but we all remember the ones relevant to Spurs
 
AdamB said:
The 72 hour thing I think makes sense, or at least as close to that as possible. We could have played Burnley on Sunday evening for example

That said, a few weeks back Arsenal had a short turn-arund too...but we all remember the ones relevant to Spurs
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Did they?
Thought it was Wednesday Saturday
As in a standard turnaround for a big side
 
As of now, at our gw 34, we cannot be overtaken by :-

Leicester C ... ... ... ... 23/4
Aston Villa ... ... ... ... 23/4
Southampton ... ... ... ... 21/4
Brighton .. ... ... ... ... 20/4
Crystal P .. ... ... ... ... 20/4
Brentford .. ... ... ... ... 9/4
Saudi Sportswashing Machine .. ... ... ... ... 9/4
Everton ... ... ... ... ... 6/4
Leeds .. ... ... ... ... ... 3/4
Burnley ... ... ... ... ... 3/4
Watford ... ... ... ... ... 20/3
Norwich City ... ... ... ... 13/3​

Nearly there !

Alas, we cannot catch :-

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Liverpool​
 
Whiffler said:
As of now, at our gw 34, we cannot be overtaken by :-

Leicester C ... ... ... ... 23/4
Aston Villa ... ... ... ... 23/4
Southampton ... ... ... ... 21/4
Brighton .. ... ... ... ... 20/4
Crystal P .. ... ... ... ... 20/4
Brentford .. ... ... ... ... 9/4
Saudi Sportswashing Machine .. ... ... ... ... 9/4
Everton ... ... ... ... ... 6/4
Leeds .. ... ... ... ... ... 3/4
Burnley ... ... ... ... ... 3/4
Watford ... ... ... ... ... 20/3
Norwich City ... ... ... ... 13/3​

Nearly there !

Alas, we cannot catch :-

Emirates Marketing Project
Liverpool​
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...and realistically can't be caught by Wolves or West Ham either. So top 6 as good as assured
 
LemonadeMoney said:
If we get to Burnley and we're still in with a shout, I couldn't give a rats arse when we play it.
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I’m sure in your day they used to go on the tinkle the night before games but things are somewhat different now.

Any fitness and conditioning person will tell you the difference between having 2 days rest in-between games and 3 days rest is huge.

This is particularly important for a club like us that at this moment has a poor squad and is reliant on a handful of players playing every game. This has been magnified by losing skipp and doherty, two vital first team players who if fit would be playing every week. Their back ups are distinctly average as are the back ups in multiple positions throughout the squad.
 
Robbo said:
If that means fifth place gets CL, we're nailed on for fourth.
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Remains to be seen what happens but one poster on here was adamant it would go to some unknown minnow team outside of England, even citing precedent as the reason they knew.

However when I pushed this poster on the evidence or when this precedent was, they just disappeared and stopped posting on the matter.
 
AjaxDeSuperYids said:
Remains to be seen what happens but one poster on here was adamant it would go to some unknown minnow team outside of England, even citing precedent as the reason they knew.

However when I pushed this poster on the evidence or when this precedent was, they just disappeared and stopped posting on the matter.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61301238

"An updated qualifying process for the Champions League has been published, which shows benefits for Scottish teams.

The Premiership champions will go directly into the competition's group stages, while the second-placed side will now go into the third round of qualifying rather than the second."

So teams/countries just moving up in the pecking order, rather than more teams from big countries entering. Seems fair (not that fairness always guides UEFA's decisions...)
 
AdamB said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61301238

"An updated qualifying process for the Champions League has been published, which shows benefits for Scottish teams.

The Premiership champions will go directly into the competition's group stages, while the second-placed side will now go into the third round of qualifying rather than the second."

So teams/countries just moving up in the pecking order, rather than more teams from big countries entering. Seems fair (not that fairness always guides UEFA's decisions...)
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Couldn't see it on uefa sight. But moving teams up a qualifying round still means their place in the lower round has to be filled.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Is there much money to be made from the champions of Malta against the champions of Luxembourg?
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Wouldn't they already be there as champions or do they start in the el or conference?

If you are bumping up teams and it leaves a couple of places, might aswell bump up a couple of teams from the europa to take their place and the conference to take theirs. Then you have 2 places in the conference that can go somewhere.

If you want to make money do it on coefficients. Utd might even get in (being bumped from the europa) or us or arsenal or roma...
 
Lilbaz said:
Wouldn't they already be there as champions or do they start in the el or conference?

If you are bumping up teams and it leaves a couple of places, might aswell bump up a couple of teams from the europa to take their place and the conference to take theirs. Then you have 2 places in the conference that can go somewhere.

If you want to make money do it on coefficients. Utd might even get in (being bumped from the europa) or us or arsenal or roma...
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Yup the fairest thing that should be done is that everyone moves up accordingly.

This would then free up spaces in the lowest CL qualifying round, which should be filled by the highest ranked EL team that is already in the EL group stages.

Yes it benefits the big sides and ethically you could make an argument as to whether that is right, but nonetheless that is ultimately the ‘fairest’ outcome. It should really be written into the rules but I suspect nothing has been documented with regards what happens when this situation arises.

So it will be up to uefa’s discretion I guess.

Edit: so russia gets two CL places, so if they did the above Roma would get bumped if they end 5th in Serie A and then us, anal or utd would get bumped by ending 5th in the PL.

That is assuming that 6th in the PL does not already go straight into the EL group stages, because if it does then utd could end 6th and still get the extra place over whoever ends 5th out of us and the anal.

Edit2: and wham who ended 6th last season went straight into the EL group stages, so even if uefa do the above we will not benefit and instead utd and roma would.

Unless they only take the highest ranked EL group stage teams that finished in the maximum highest EL qualifying spots in each country, in which case only 5th place in the PL would be applicable. Then we could get it :D
 
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AjaxDeSuperYids said:
Yup the fairest thing that should be done is that everyone moves up accordingly.

This would then free up spaces in the lowest CL qualifying round, which should be filled by the highest ranked EL team that is already in the EL group stages.

Yes it benefits the big sides and ethically you could make an argument as to whether that is right, but nonetheless that is ultimately the ‘fairest’ outcome. It should really be written into the rules but I suspect nothing has been documented with regards what happens when this situation arises.

So it will be up to uefa’s discretion I guess.

Edit: so russia gets two CL places, so if they did the above Roma would get bumped if they end 5th in Serie A and then us, anal or utd would get bumped by ending 5th in the PL.

That is assuming that 6th in the PL does not already go straight into the EL group stages, because if it does then utd could end 6th and still get the extra place over whoever ends 5th out of us and the anal.

Edit2: and wham who ended 6th last season went straight into the EL group stages, so even if uefa do the above we will not benefit and instead utd and roma would.

Unless they only take the highest ranked EL group stage teams that finished in the maximum highest EL qualifying spots in each country, in which case only 5th place in the PL would be applicable. Then we could get it :D
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Sounds like they don't have rules because they don't know how they will fudge us over yet. :p
 
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