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The Fight to Qualify for the European Conference League 2020/21

Cannot say I'm looking forward to this season. The only two trophies worth aspiring to are both out of reach. The rest you can keep.

So my only hope is that the likes of Kane, Son and Lo Celso can find a way often enough to rise above the dreary dross a Mourinho team dishes out these days.
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Forget Emirates Marketing Project and Liverpool....just keep in touch with Chelsea and Man Ure that’s all,the amount of games Chelsea lost last year,12,and they finished third,shows that standard is quite close amongst the top 8.
With two or three additions and the players getting used to what the manager wants,we be near the top than the middle this year.
Agreed.
We just need a solid side with round pegs in round holes, and then a few match-winners.
We do have match-winners, if deployed properly.
 
Utd just got pumped 3-1 at home by Palace.

Palace got a very lucky penalty when Lindelof was adjudged to handle it (he was just running along in the box when Ayew strangely chipped it suddenly).
Then De Gea saved Ayew's terrible penalty. But was harshly adjudged to have left his line and it was retaken.

Two harsh calls in a row never happen at Old Trafford.

Assuming Spurs aren't fighting with Pool to win the league, these are the sorts of teams we will be fighting with, and need to hope lose.
 
That's the Sissoko handball in the CL final all over again. Mane flicked it on purpose is what I saw with my rose tinted lens.
Utd just got pumped 3-1 at home by Palace.

Palace got a very lucky penalty when Lindelof was adjudged to handle it (he was just running along in the box when Ayew strangely chipped it suddenly).
Then De Gea saved Ayew's terrible penalty. But was harshly adjudged to have left his line and it was retaken.

Two harsh calls in a row never happen at Old Trafford.

Assuming Spurs aren't fighting with Pool to win the league, these are the sorts of teams we will be fighting with, and need to hope lose.

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These handball penalties are a reason that VAR is not good for the game, its a manipulation of the new system and for me. Flicking the ball up to hit someones hand for a penalty is not football for me, if thats how the game is going you can keep it
 
These handball penalties are a reason that VAR is not good for the game, its a manipulation of the new system and for me. Flicking the ball up to hit someones hand for a penalty is not football for me, if thats how the game is going you can keep it
Surely it's how the rules are drawn and then interpreted that is the issue, not the VAR? I know VAR allows the opportunity to review the action, but the laws have to be a little less daft.
 
Surely it's how the rules are drawn and then interpreted that is the issue, not the VAR? I know VAR allows the opportunity to review the action, but the laws have to be a little less daft.

Yeh if they have changed? I dont know if they have or not. I just take it on face value and its silly

But teams are purposely adapting their game to take advantage of the fact that video refs will give a penalty for any touch on the hand, thats just annoying regardless, people just dont seem to show any common sense.
 
Yeh if they have changed? I dont know if they have or not. I just take it on face value and its silly

But teams are purposely adapting their game to take advantage of the fact that video refs will give a penalty for any touch on the hand, thats just annoying regardless, people just dont seem to show any common sense.
Well, as long as it doesn't stitch a team up in a big important game,.........


....oh wait a minute:(
 
Surely it's how the rules are drawn and then interpreted that is the issue, not the VAR? I know VAR allows the opportunity to review the action, but the laws have to be a little less daft.
I've had a good look at the wording of the rules now.
Basically if the ball strikes the hand/arm below the shoulder it's handball. However, The rule explicitly lists exceptions when the ball ricochet of the players head, body or foot, as well as ricochets from a team mate or opposition player, or the arm is firmly tucked in. Same goes with a player falling and hits the arm, if the arm is used to protect from the fall. (a Klinsmann type dive ad ball hitting the outstretched arm, would be handball).
From this we can conclude that the penalty against united was correct according to the rule (ball hit outstretched arm directly), but the penalty against us was wrong (richoched into the arm from team mate).
But, in a sensible world, neither should be ruled handball.
 
Yeh if they have changed? I dont know if they have or not. I just take it on face value and its silly

But teams are purposely adapting their game to take advantage of the fact that video refs will give a penalty for any touch on the hand, thats just annoying regardless, people just dont seem to show any common sense.
Agreed. Funny that Winks, the midfield player, has his arms tucked behind his back, and D'oherty, the defense has his arm out. I guess he'd just watched the start of the CL with Sissoko...
 
This tune sums up my mood for the coming season.

To say nothing of the wikked homegrown sativa (Green Crack) and indica (Hindu Kush) buds I've been sampling off the burgeoning pot plants in my backyard:

 
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