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The Fight for Europa

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Isn’t 7th place now not a qualifying spot? Even if arsenal lose the final Utd will be already qualifying for Europe through the league so arsenal will get it as runners up Won’t they?

If the winner of the domestic cup qualifies for the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League via the domestic championship, the highest ranking non-qualified domestic championship club qualifies for the UEFA Europa League at the stage initially reserved for the lowest ranking top domestic championship representative.

There was a possibility for an additional spot, but that would have required both of ManU and Chelsea to have finish outside the top 4 and win the EL and CL respectively.
 
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If the winner of the domestic cup qualifies for the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League via the domestic championship, the highest ranking non-qualified domestic championship club qualifies for the UEFA Europa League at the stage initially reserved for the lowest ranking top domestic championship representative.

There was a possibility for an additional spot, but that would have required both of ManU and Chelsea to have finish outside the top 4 and win the EL and CL respectively.


Thanks! That’s one small mercy I guess
 
There was a possibility for an additional spot, but that would have required both of ManU and Chelsea to have finish outside the top 4 and win the EL and CL respectively.
There is a theoretical possibility of an extra European place (ie. total of 8) but it doesn't help EL qualification through the league.

For example, if:
1. Liverpool
2. Man C
3. Man U
4. Leicester
5. Chelsea (CL winners)
6. Sheff U
7. Spurs
8. Wolves (EL winners)

Then CL entrants (5) would be Liverpool, Man C, Man U, Chelsea, Wolves
and EL entrants (3) would be Leicester, Sheff U and Arsenal if FA Cup winners or otherwise Spurs.

So 7th place would still be dependent on whether the FA Cup winners qualified for Europe via the league.
 
Isn’t 7th place now not a qualifying spot? Even if arsenal lose the final Utd will be already qualifying for Europe through the league so arsenal will get it as runners up Won’t they?
So long as ManU or Chelsea win the FA Cup then their Europa spot will go to 7th spot in EPL, we could do with pipping Wolves to 6th to avoid any possible risk of 2012 trauma again though!

https://www.premierleague.com/european-qualification-explained

UEFA Europa League (UEL) qualification
In normal circumstances, three UEL places are given to English clubs who fulfil the following criteria:
  • The fifth-placed team in the Premier League qualify for the group stage proper.
  • The winners of the FA Cup qualify for the group stage proper.
  • The EFL Cup winners qualify for the second qualifying round.
Where these qualifications changes

a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.

b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UEL second qualifying round place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
 
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These are the deciding games:

Wolverhampton - Crystal Palace
Chelsea - Wolverhampton
Crystal Palace - Tottenham

You just know at least one of the other teams involved will get maximum points.

Aston Villa - Arsenal
Arsenal
- Watford

Sheffield United - Everton
Southampton - Sheffield United

Then the real kick in the nuts if we end up in 7th place:

Arsenal - Chelsea
 
I'd love to play the role of a typical negative, moping Spurs fan, moaning that there's little chance of getting Europa League because Arsenal are in such great form that they'll beat Chelsea. And that the Woofers will take max points from their remaining games.

But reality is, our chances are pretty decent. And if we were to somehow not qualify, it's clear that it wouldn't upset a great many. I like the competition just as a way to boost development of younger players. Look what it did for Kane.

We don't have full control of our destiny, but a win over Palace puts us in a good spot, out of reach of SheffU and the Popguns. Pretty sure it'll be a fun week of training at Hotspur way. With four wins and a draw in the last five, we're the form side in the league. Palace have been blanked in four of their five straight losses. And what a dramatic final weekend. So much to play for.

Chelsea have a big say in our fate. The FA Cup might be their only chance at redemption this season. They're going out of the CL to Bayern and might not even finish top four this year.

They have a tough mid-week visit to Liverpool but know that a win secures CL qualification(which would give Wolves a much easier match on Sunday). Sure, the reds are home and cooled. But their supporters will want to see Chelsea beaten at every opportunity to make up for the hurt they've inflicted. And a home win takes them to a significant point total for their title-winning season - 96. They can run their tadgers out at Saudi Sportswashing Machine for fun.

If Var United give West Ham the tonking they deserve Wednesday, then United go to third, two points up on Chelsea heading into the final weekend. A draw with Leicester would be all they need in their final game.

Chelsea v Wolves could see both desperate for the win. Assuming they beat Palace today, the Woofers need it to claim sixth. Chelsea will be craving the win in order to complete the Havertz transfer, which might not happen if they were to miss CL qualification. I could see Chelsea pull the plug early in Liverpool if they're down a couple after an hour and save energy for the final home game. A last day win or draw for Leicester could drop Chelsea out of the top four. Leicester's superior goal differential wins if they're tied on points.

So can Chelsea rally to win the FA Cup and send us to Europe? They'll go into that match buoyed by having finished top four or tinkled off they didn't and badly need some redemption. Either way, they won't be indifferent and that will give them the edge over an Arsenal side just a little too eager to deliver payback for the EL final defeat. In Luiz, I trust.

Then, their fans can mock us all they want about Thursday nights, channel 5, a time slot they're all too familiar with.
 
I'd love to play the role of a typical negative, moping Spurs fan, moaning that there's little chance of getting Europa League because Arsenal are in such great form that they'll beat Chelsea. And that the Woofers will take max points from their remaining games.

But reality is, our chances are pretty decent. And if we were to somehow not qualify, it's clear that it wouldn't upset a great many. I like the competition just as a way to boost development of younger players. Look what it did for Kane.

We don't have full control of our destiny, but a win over Palace puts us in a good spot, out of reach of SheffU and the Popguns. Pretty sure it'll be a fun week of training at Hotspur way. With four wins and a draw in the last five, we're the form side in the league. Palace have been blanked in four of their five straight losses. And what a dramatic final weekend. So much to play for.

Chelsea have a big say in our fate. The FA Cup might be their only chance at redemption this season. They're going out of the CL to Bayern and might not even finish top four this year.

They have a tough mid-week visit to Liverpool but know that a win secures CL qualification(which would give Wolves a much easier match on Sunday). Sure, the reds are home and cooled. But their supporters will want to see Chelsea beaten at every opportunity to make up for the hurt they've inflicted. And a home win takes them to a significant point total for their title-winning season - 96. They can run their tadgers out at Saudi Sportswashing Machine for fun.

If Var United give West Ham the tonking they deserve Wednesday, then United go to third, two points up on Chelsea heading into the final weekend. A draw with Leicester would be all they need in their final game.

Chelsea v Wolves could see both desperate for the win. Assuming they beat Palace today, the Woofers need it to claim sixth. Chelsea will be craving the win in order to complete the Havertz transfer, which might not happen if they were to miss CL qualification. I could see Chelsea pull the plug early in Liverpool if they're down a couple after an hour and save energy for the final home game. A last day win or draw for Leicester could drop Chelsea out of the top four. Leicester's superior goal differential wins if they're tied on points.

So can Chelsea rally to win the FA Cup and send us to Europe? They'll go into that match buoyed by having finished top four or tinkled off they didn't and badly need some redemption. Either way, they won't be indifferent and that will give them the edge over an Arsenal side just a little too eager to deliver payback for the EL final defeat. In Luiz, I trust.

Then, their fans can mock us all they want about Thursday nights, channel 5, a time slot they're all too familiar with.

The goons will definitely win the final if they park the bus and play on the break.

Like us they carry a big threat on the counter.

And their defenders thrive when its kept nice and simple for them, so if they play that way its almost nailed on they will win.

If they score first its 100% over.

The best hope lay with united with their three pronged attack supported by pogba and bruno, but that absolute fudge wit ole and de gea blew their chances.
 
Looks like we'll need Chelsea to help us out by either taking points off Wolves or beating Arsenal in the final.
 
Looks like we'll need Chelsea to help us out by either taking points off Wolves or beating Arsenal in the final.

They want the Champions league. So they need to beat Wolves. IF they draw and we win its all good too. So bound to be a wolves win now ;)

I dont want to care about the final. Two teams I want to lose. Its a no win situation.
 
Isn’t 7th place now not a qualifying spot? Even if arsenal lose the final Utd will be already qualifying for Europe through the league so arsenal will get it as runners up Won’t they?

That used to be the case, but changed 3 ? seasons back to match League Cup status ie winners only.
 
We can no longer be caught by the following :-

Arsenal ......…. - gw37
Sheffield Utd … - gw37
Burnley ...…….. - gw37

Everton ......... - gw36
Southampton … - gw36
Saudi Sportswashing Machine …….. - gw36
Crystal Palarse . - gw34
Brighton …...….. - gw33
Wet Spam ....... - gw32
Aston Villa ….... - gw32
Watford ...….... - gw 32
Bournemouth .. - gw 32
Norwich City .... - gw 31

Two more giants behind us .... and Arsewipes (oh dear, how sad, never mind)

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So Chelsea to fudge us again by winning a cup to send us into the fudging Europa League

Depends on how they're left after tonight.

If they have lost to Liverwhinge, then United and Leicester are both well placed to overtake them at the weekend … so they would have to be sure of what's afoot late in the game before giving away a careless goal. Of course, you can engineer a long injury to make sure your game finishes last.

If they have won, they are in CL and would be free to do … whatever.


I don't see Lampard as the type for murky goings-on, but there are still players in their squad who wouldn't need any additional incentive to make things happen. They'd be the only London club in CL, and could yet be the only one in Europe at all. Watch out for the bus & tube ads in response to our foolish gloating a year or two back.



At the weekend, a result better than Wolves will see us home (and away) and dried. We will have secured a monster 6th place
 
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