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sshould I refuse to sign new company contract?

southstand1882 said:
And?

If his company goes under he can work for somebody else

Preferably a company that honours the contract he signs, and pays him for every hour he works

The company I work for was acquired last summer

Every single aspect of our contract was considered and improved where our previous contract was stronger

i.e. our new employer decided NOT to take the tinkle out of us
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Oh yeah, of course he can work for someone else.

But how long might that take? Unless he had something lined-up straight away to fall back on, he's likely to be earning fudge all for a lot longer than 2 weeks, isn't he? In the immediate short term, he's wiser to accept the new contract. In the mid-term, he's wiser to go and find a new employer.
 
Sheikh Ma Nuggets said:
Oh yeah, of course he can work for someone else.

But how long might that take? Unless he had something lined-up straight away to fall back on, he's likely to be earning fudge all for a lot longer than 2 weeks, isn't he? In the immediate short term, he's wiser to accept the new contract. In the mid-term, he's wiser to go and find a new employer.
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Good point.

Sign the new contract and then look for somewhere else is the most solid advice
 
Sheikh Ma Nuggets said:
Sounds like your company is in dire financial trouble. Adjusting working hours is a means to increase productive capacity while reducing overheads - risky move, as it massively lowers morale, but one which a company may chose to take in the short-term so as to ride out a rough period.

Yes in real terms it's a 4% paycut, but I don't know how easily re employable you are? If you left the company, then you'd have a 100% paycut. All contracts can be terminated; your recourse would surround the circumstances and mitigating reasons for the termination. Put simply: even if you took your employer to a tribunal, they could argue that a change to the terms of employment was a necessary - albeit regrettable - decision, taken to safeguard jobs and the future of the company. And as long as they follow predetermined procedure then you'd struggle to win any dismissal case too.

If I were you, I'd ask your management for the in-depth reasoning behind the proposals. You may take a different view, if the management tells you that - if this change isn't accepted - the business will fold. Any gripe about 4% would then become somewhat academic.
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Excellent post.

Sometimes you have to be a bit strategic about these things and recognize that what seems like a short-term loss might well be a long-term gain. If there ARE to be sackings down the line, by signing this, you "might" have elevated yourself away from the redundancy areas. Who knows? Perhaps you could, when agreeing to sign, ask for a re-evaluation in 12 months time and also request some extra holiday days. But I agree in essence that what's being said here is that to flatly refuse could end up seeing you on the dole.

It's a shame things have come to this, but they indeed have...

Steff
 
To be honest they've been messing me about for ages, they promised me and 2 colleagues some training in January and then set us a target to meet in March with the promise that the training would follow that if we met the target, we did and it's now August and still no training.

They keep saying one thing and then changing their minds. There's been a lot of people leaving lately so it looks like I may have to do the same.

At this point bricking in the bosses coffee seems like the best idea but I'll see what others plan to do, nobodies happy with it so I don't think I'll be the only one complaining about it.

For those saying it's only a couple of hours or whatever, where do you draw the line, what if they then said they were taking away a couple of days holiday as well, or adding some weekend work, or simply reduced your salary a bit, at what point do you stop and say hang on a minute, your taking the tinkle?
 
Is your current week strict in the hours that you currently do.. like to the minute

Arive 8:30, 30mins lunch, leave 4

Or like has been said maybe your doing more than 36 hrs anyway.
 
These are surely not the times to be playing the "I'm not doing anything outside of which I am contracted" card.

It is that sort of behaviour that has got Spain, Greece and Portugal in the mess that they are in.
 
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