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Sick sick world what is wrong with people

spurspinter1 said:
What's true? I'd ask the guy himself but the prevarication and contorting is dull, so I might as well enquire from someone who agrees with him.

I mean, it's a good job that police have never been caught abusing their power right? Do what the people with the authority tells you, that always works because obviously those in charge deserve that power and can do with it whatever they want. How many open case are there with the usage of body cams with the police force in London. Scara's in one of the key demographics who are victims of these incidents so it's weird that he is pro poli- oh wait, I got mixed up there! Nvm
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I am not sure what your experiences of the police are, I hope mostly positive but judging from the tone of your post maybe not. As officers are drawn from all sections of society, like that society they come from, there will be good and bad ones. Some very bad. It’s no secret that I was formerly a police officer and I still have a number of friends on the force. But it’s not my place to defend all of them. I have to say that myself and the colleagues I worked with, tried to do the best job we could, often in very difficult circumstances. It’s the police’s job to protect you and to put ourselves in harms way. But, in the end, it’s still a job and in my opinion, there should be a strong deterrent to kick, punch, throw bricks or burning bins with the aim of deliberately injuring police officers. Hopefully that gives you the context you were looking for.
 
Robspur12 said:
I am not sure what your experiences of the police are, I hope mostly positive but judging from the tone of your post maybe not. As officers are drawn from all sections of society, like that society they come from, there will be good and bad ones. Some very bad. It’s no secret that I was formerly a police officer and I still have a number of friends on the force. But it’s not my place to defend all of them. I have to say that myself and the colleagues I worked with, tried to do the best job we could, often in very difficult circumstances. It’s the police’s job to protect you and to put ourselves in harms way. But, in the end, it’s still a job and in my opinion, there should be a strong deterrent to kick, punch, throw bricks or burning bins with the aim of deliberately injuring police officers. Hopefully that gives you the context you were looking for.
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I don't doubt that you were one of the good ones! It's just worth a bit of time to pause and reflect when in agreement with the edge lord supreme, which bit exactly are you saying is true?

It's just human nature that when given that kind of authority / power over others, some go too far with it. Or are given dodgy orders that they are obliged to follow whether they agree with it or not.

Ideally, nobody is going to be put in a position where the best course of action is to assault anyone, violence should never be the first response as it isn't the best educator. Fighting fire with fire isn't ideal and it's an extreme example but if you'd had enough of the right people around the George Floyd incident, he'd still be alive, it seems a reasonable trade to assault a police officer to save someone's life.

My experiences have mainly been positive with police, but I am in a position of privilege. I do recall one time of being aggressively pushed by a female police officer, and at that point the male officer switched off their bodycam according to my friend, it doesn't seem like a coincidence. Whilst I was being a bit of a gobbrick (imagine that!!!), that push could've been one of those slip and head hits the curb incidents. It's a fortunate place to be in that I can sat that was my worst dealings with the police! Funnily enough I was in cuffs, but managed to talk my way out of it whilst a friend spent a night in the cell for harming the fragile ego of the policeman by flicking the v's at him. That was a tricky one to explain to the boss the following morning.
 
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Robspur12 said:
I am not sure what your experiences of the police are, I hope mostly positive but judging from the tone of your post maybe not. As officers are drawn from all sections of society, like that society they come from, there will be good and bad ones. Some very bad. It’s no secret that I was formerly a police officer and I still have a number of friends on the force. But it’s not my place to defend all of them. I have to say that myself and the colleagues I worked with, tried to do the best job we could, often in very difficult circumstances. It’s the police’s job to protect you and to put ourselves in harms way. But, in the end, it’s still a job and in my opinion, there should be a strong deterrent to kick, punch, throw bricks or burning bins with the aim of deliberately injuring police officers. Hopefully that gives you the context you were looking for.
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Thats how I see it having a couple of mates in the force. As I have said in agreement on other posts there are clearly good ones and bad ones and I think we can identify them whilst not using individual examples to judge an entire force where lets be frank, its a blooming hard job and a majority of the people they have to deal with a criminal scum. I like to see those that have done wrong held accountable but I don't know enough about these individual cases mentioned on here to make a call on where they are within the rules, under investigation in the police could mean a host of things from what I understand, taking free coffees off a market vendor on your regular beat to something more serious and heinous.

As a Segway to the point about the riots I do love the self fulfilled prophesy of some of them, those football first lot when they say "I bet when we go up we don't get treated like them" only to spend 3 hours getting boozed and coked in the pubs to then cause aggro to incite the police attention. I mean I guarantee I could go on the next 10 high profile marches and not get arrested once as anyone on here could.......There is a reason they get arrested and the attention they frankly crave.
 
spurspinter1 said:
I don't doubt that you were one of the good ones! It's just worth a bit of time to pause and reflect when in agreement with the edge lord supreme, which bit exactly are you saying is true?

It's just human nature that when given that kind of authority / power over others, some go too far with it. Or are given dodgy orders that they are obliged to follow whether they agree with it or not.

Ideally, nobody is going to be put in a position where the best course of action is to assault anyone, violence should never be the first response as it isn't the best educator. Fighting fire with fire isn't ideal and it's an extreme example but if you'd had enough of the right people around the George Floyd incident, he'd still be alive, it seems a reasonable trade to assault a police officer to save someone's life.

My experiences have mainly been positive with police, but I am in a position of privilege. I do recall one time of being aggressively pushed by a female police officer, and at that point the male officer switched off their bodycam according to my friend, it doesn't seem like a coincidence. Whilst I was being a bit of a gobbrick (imagine that!!!), that push could've been one of those slip and head hits the curb incidents. It's a fortunate place to be in that I can sat that was my worst dealings with the police! Funnily enough I was in cuffs, but managed to talk my way out of it whilst a friend spent a night in the cell for harming the fragile ego of the policeman by flicking the v's at him. That was a tricky one to explain to the boss the following morning.
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I was actually trying to make the point to Scara, (perhaps a little clumsily but then writing lacks the nuance of speaking) that it's double standards to be rightly angry at airport incident but to excuse the disorder witnessed in the Summer depending on your political point of view.

It surprises me that you were the mouthy one 😂( I say with a smile and meant in good humour).
 
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