glasgowspur
Luka Modric
Gazza, two mins earlier with your post would have saved me the trouble.
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Rotation
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Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
Always at least two sides to every story/thought/idea/philosophy!!
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
No, you don't understand, Norwich and Saudi Sportswashing Machine are cannon fodder when compared to the likes of Qarabag, we must play our full stength team in the Europa, even in dead rubber games like Thursday when we have already qualified.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Monaco on Thursday.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
We're not talking wholesale changes.
Just giving Njie and Wimmer (and in time Bentaleb) a few more minutes, just like we have with Davies and Trippier etc. Rotating 2 players out of 11.
Just giving Njie and Wimmer (and in time Bentaleb) a few more minutes, just like we have with Davies and Trippier etc. Rotating 2 players out of 11.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
That's how rotating should be done IMO and I believe it's how Fergie did it.
However this Monaco game is a chance to rest most of the team, the current undroppables, Kane, Verts, Alder, Dier, Eriksen should all be rested or on the bench, we can still put out a decent team capable of winning at home.
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
You do remember that Saudi Sportswashing Machine beat us last season right?
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
11 players with most minutes from each of the top sides (included Chelsea and Leicester for some comparisons), total minutes are on the far right.
My take there isn't much difference between the teams with european games. But when we play the smaller teams they will have less minutes under their belt which might give them an advantage. No manager seems to be able to rotate and keep his players happy in the way Ferguson used to do. He used to take a player aside and tell them he needed them to do a job in a game coming up and would rest them for the next one. He'd have it all planned out weeks in advance.
My take there isn't much difference between the teams with european games. But when we play the smaller teams they will have less minutes under their belt which might give them an advantage. No manager seems to be able to rotate and keep his players happy in the way Ferguson used to do. He used to take a player aside and tell them he needed them to do a job in a game coming up and would rest them for the next one. He'd have it all planned out weeks in advance.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
A fine post. Further, you know there will be a postponement or two...
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I think there's a decent argument to be made that Kane is our "Ronaldo or Messi" - not as good, but our attacking superstar. And quite a few teams simply don't rotate their attacking superstar.
Kane is also in a different situation to our midfielders as he's the one that's supposed to initiate our pressing. If he's getting tired he is the one that can decide that we sit back a bit deeper. A midfielder getting tired that's supposed to keep up with the rest will be more likely to leave gaps the opponents can expose.
It could just as easily be said that it's arrogance to ignore burn out as a factor and expect us to get results later in the season if you ignore burn out at this point.
I don't think it's just about game time. A player "rotated out" can do a lot more on the training ground in the days surrounding the match. Mentioned it in the WBA match thread, but a player being rested for the WBA and Monaco game would have almost two weeks without first team football. Enough time for a "mini pre-season" of sorts where fitness work could be done that could do that player a lot of good later in the season.
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Ultimately I will 100% trust Pochettino and his fitness coaches on this one. They have a lot more knowledge and information than us... I think it's possible to fall into the ditch either side of the road on this - either rotating too much or not rotating enough. So far I don't think we've seen any reason to second guess Pochettino on this issue. If anything our good injury record and performances have indicated that Pochettino is in great control of this.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
If he did that though he would get criticism for not taking our goal difference seriously and not "putting teams to the sword". I think Pochettino is striking a decent balance, and as we saw earlier this season against Stoke a game where we look to be cruising could quickly change character with a goal against.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Because the common 3 subs to make in football in 1 CM and 2 AMs (usually the WFs).
They are the subs to keep control of the game/keep up the tempo.
You'd very rarely routinely sub one of your back 4 - that destabilises, rather than creates an impact.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Ian Walker
True, but that is in the real world, most football experts submit to the Football Manager 201? mode
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
All good points that I considered too, but I would like to think that we have reached a point now where we can see a game to its conclusion. The Stoke and Leicester games were early on in the season where we were losing focus after going up, but this seems to have been rectified as of late (bar the EL matches). In any case, I generally agree with your comment, but I think we can do some earlier substitutions. All this being said, however, we won't know how the current squad rotation policy will affect us until we get to February or even March, where I'm assuming we'll see if there is burn out or not.
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
So you think we should rotate against Saudi Sportswashing Machine because you think it will be an easy match, the same Saudi Sportswashing Machine that just beat Liverpool 2:0?
Exactly. The idea that we would rest players for the Saudi Sportswashing Machine game is absurd considering we have a dead rubber game 3 days before. They should all be rested for Monaco
richardanthonyc
Stuart Nethercott
No matter how rubbish Saudi Sportswashing Machine are playing - they always seem to get a result against us at the lane
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
No matter how rubbish Saudi Sportswashing Machine are playing - they always seem to get a result against us at the lane
Except when we beat them 4-0 last season
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
I think you know he means in the League, my friend, in the League. They have beaten us on their last two League visits to WHL and have four victories in their last ten - in the League!