Rail travel price rise

[Danishfurniturelover]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...Rail-fare-hike-Britain-vs-rest-of-Europe.html

This country is a massive fooking rip off. I usually catch the train to Tottenham as I enjoy a drink and I tend to go weekend games. Now I recently moved but am on the same railway line and the amount of times the are sodding rail replacement buses because of engineering works is unreal. Why do we put up with paying such high prices and get such a shoddy service.

This is not meant as a party political rant as it was like this under the last lot and will probably be like it under the next lot. Really takes something off my day trips up to see Tottenham. They ought to hurry the hell up and finish London Bridge as well because part of my match day ritual is to go and get a bison burger from Borough market before walking to Liverpool street, but trains are not going into London Bridge from my way at weekends now apparently.

 

[Danners9]

Quality of service goes down, price goes up.

Rail replacement on a weekend is ridiculous; matchdays when Spurs are at home there's a problem. Genuine question, is it against the law to work at night? or does it simply cost too much?

Last time I was in England was October last year; paid 80 quid return to go from Kings Cross to Retford (near Lincoln I suppose), then got stuck figuring out a rail replacement trying to get from Hertford North to Highgate on a Saturday (!) when they suddenly cancelled all of the trains due to a fault and all Northern Line stations were closed and no replacement bus service available at the time so I had to get a taxi (!!!) to High Barnet and a bus to Highgate. Urghhhhhhhh. A journey that should have taken no more than an hour took nearly 3, it was a nice reminder of why I was only there for a week before leaving.

 

[markysimmo]

Anybody who follows me on twitter will know my feelings on my shockingly bad rail service I use to get to work everyday GA, look at this, if im lucky three of my 10 journeys a week to London are on time, im lucky my work know its not my fault but some people must be in danger of losing their jobs

http://www.abelliogreateranglia.co.uk/about-us/news/2014/08/customer-apology-and-update

In 20 years of commuting 2014 has been the worst and GA have openly admitted that they are profit stripping for the next two years until their lose their franchise extention and wont re-invest anything yet the DFT are letting them openly do this

I could work local, not commute and be lucky to earn half what I currently do in London so I have to lump the premium rate fares for a third rate service

At least thankfully the next franchise in 2016 is going to be a 15 year one rather than the previous 4 short ones in which no new rolling stock can be ranted or timetable changes made, I travel on a 40 year old train a day, its filthy things are broken, hardly ever cleaned

Yep we get 100% ripped off in this country

 

[Roy1983]

Thankfully not having to rely on trains for work at the moment but did for 10 years or so through Edmonton, WHL etc it was the worst journey into Liverpool Street. Really is disgusting how it works.

 

[DHSF]

The rail travel is one thing that deters me from living and even working out of London. I dont think the tube service in this country is bad, actually I think its brilliant and with the increase in service times from next year it will be even better.

Rail on the other hand, going to WHL is bad enough and thats enough to put me off. Theyre disgusting horrible and extremely depressing trains. Urgh

 

[Roy1983]

Bar strikes the underground service is tip-top as far as I'm concerned.

 

[markysimmo]

The rail travel is one thing that deters me from living and even working out of London. I dont think the tube service in this country is bad, actually I think its brilliant and with the increase in service times from next year it will be even better.

Rail on the other hand, going to WHL is bad enough and thats enough to put me off. Theyre disgusting horrible and extremely depressing trains. Urgh

and with crossrail in 2018 its only going to get better too

 

[DHSF]

and with crossrail in 2018 its only going to get better too

Yep exactly - will be super.

I went to Edmonton in Canada a couple of years back, they have a subway but it is only limited to an area no bigger than the west end. May as well have a ****ing tram. Just shows how advanced we are compared to others in travel.

 

[ledley's knee injections]

Wow, this is great news. I have the 'pleasure' of travelling to work/into central London on South Eastern trains. F**k me, such a bad service for such a ridiculously high cost. They are a bunch of absolute crooks!!!

I'd say that roughly 60% of my journeys (so a minimum of 6 out of 10 per week) are delayed by some amount of time - at least a couple of those are usually by a decent amount of time too.

 

[Baleforce]

The operators are between a rock and a hard place sadly, they get fined by network rail when services run late despite most delays being network rails fault, oh and they have to give network rail almost half the money they take for tickets as well. Interesting pie chart here,

http://railway-technical.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/some-fares-facts.html

It was a botched privatisation, they should have handed each region kit and caboodle back to an operating company and let them get on with it as a private company and allow them to set prices accordingly and maintain their own infrastructure.

 

[DHSF]

Wow, this is great news. I have the 'pleasure' of travelling to work/into central London on South Eastern trains. F**k me, such a bad service for such a ridiculously high cost. They are a bunch of absolute crooks!!!

I'd say that roughly 60% of my journeys (so a minimum of 6 out of 10 per week) are delayed by some amount of time - at least a couple of those are usually by a decent amount of time too.

On the tube if youre delayed by 15 mins you can get a refund (I think thats how it goes anyways)... Are you rail travellers not entitled to refunds if delays exceed a period of time?

 

[Baleforce]

the tube refund is only if you have a weekly (or more) travel card afaik, most people are on oyster payg these days which isn't eligible

 

[DHSF]

the tube refund is only if you have a weekly (or more) travel card afaik, most people are on oyster payg these days which isn't eligible

I do PAYG and have had refunds although they generally object to 'it was out of our hands' reason. Didnt know refunds were only applicable to weekly's

 

[Baleforce]

the delay refunds i think, i still get auto refunds when the readers **** up, they are pretty good with that

edit: sorry re-read your post, so you do get delay refunds to your payg oyster, thats cool, i'll have to start complaining

 

[DHSF]

the delay refunds i think, i still get auto refunds when the readers **** up, they are pretty good with that

edit: sorry re-read your post, so you do get delay refunds to your payg oyster, thats cool, i'll have to start complaining

Yep but sometimes not worth it - can be an arduous task at times as generally its because of ****ing leaves on the track or a drop of rain haha. Try it.

 

[P.D.]

I know bit of an extreme comparsion but went to Japan earlier this year and their trains are on another level. If a train is more than 5 minutes late (they never are) then they give you a slip to hand to your boss to explain why you're late for work. All stations have markings for each carriage where the train doors will be, they are colour coded for segments e.g. quiet coach. All seats can flip round 180 degrees so you can always face forward if you want or turn it so you are facing the people behind you if mates etc. All trains are absolutely spotless, impeccably toilets inc separate bathrooms for urinals.

 

[scaramanga]

There's a solution to this problem - buy a car.

They're much more comfortable and they have the added bonus of not needing to hear a bunch of fannies whining about their fare increases

 

[Sandman]

There's a solution to this problem - buy a car.

They're much more comfortable and they have the added bonus of not needing to hear a bunch of fannies whining about their fare increases

If only it was as easy as that. I would like nothing more to be able to drive into work. but with the traffic, congestion charge and financial *struggle cuddle* they call central london parking charges its just not at all viable.

 

[scaramanga]

If only it was as easy as that. I would like nothing more to be able to drive into work. but with the traffic, congestion charge and financial *struggle cuddle* they call central london parking charges its just not at all viable.

The traffic's not too bad if you know your way around - can you still register as a taxi?

Congestion charge is a bummer but many employers offer to cover it if their premises are inside.

Parking's the tough one. I recommend removing a leg and getting one of those really handy blue badges. Does your office not have parking?

 

[Sandman]

I reckon I could get around the traffic fairly easily. Its more the cost of the parking and the congestion charge. Most offices dont have parking these days. Any spare space is being sucked up to build more flats. Flats bloody everywhere.

I recently moved out of London due to the hike in rental rates ( up 45% ) in my area. Then get hit with the stupid travel costs as im 2 stops outside of the Oyster area.