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Putin & Russia

In what way?

I keep hearing about all these awful things the US and NATO would do to Russia. Other than stop it invading neighbouring countries, nobody has been able to specify a single thing though.

The way america has done since the second world war. Do what we say or you will be punished. We will over throw your government and get one in we like. That will support us military and economic interests. Usually ends badly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

They overthrew lula. The most popular leader this centuary. Replaced him with bolsonaro.

https://www.brasilwire.com/white-house-admits-cia-involvement-in-latin-americas-war-on-corruption/

It was the us (and the uk) that created the oligarchs in russia in the first place. Supporting them financially as they didn't want russia to go back to communism.
 
Sanctions so far have only effected limited people or companies. Sporting events being moved from russia the main exception.

Also there is no gain only loss from it all, as I said earlier the world's pretty much allowing Russia to walk in and do their thing and let it run because the collateral damage of that is unfortunately for Ukraine far less than a full blown war.
 
The way america has done since the second world war. Do what we say or you will be punished. We will over throw your government and get one in we like. That will support us military and economic interests. Usually ends badly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

They overthrew lula. The most popular leader this centuary. Replaced him with bolsonaro.

https://www.brasilwire.com/white-house-admits-cia-involvement-in-latin-americas-war-on-corruption/

It was the us (and the uk) that created the oligarchs in russia in the first place. Supporting them financially as they didn't want russia to go back to communism.
Are you seriously suggesting that the US would have invaded Russia after Ukraine joined NATO?

Or is this another something, something, NATO, bad....
 
BBC update said Zelensky has proposed ceasefire talks.

So yeah let’s hope that Putin can come down from his murderous high and recognise he now has to deal with a nation of tinkled off Ukrainians and work out something that works for them.

Hopefully, this is an end to the bloodshed, chaos and destruction.

Ukraine will also note, they have been badly let down this side of the line.
 
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