Politics, politics, politics

[Gutter Boy]

You say "proper title", and "demoted". It's a pretty sound rule of professional life that only knobs retain the title of Dr outside of an academic or medical context.

Things may be different in Germany. They often are.

Pretty much everywhere in the world uses them more than the UK. Which is odd considering how class and hierarchy conscious we are with most other things.

Martin Luther King, Brian May, John Cooper Clarke, the Klitschkos, Liam Fox, David Owen and Vince Cable all use(d) theirs outside academia/medicine. I can't actually think of anyone who is entitled to use it, who doesn't

 

[Gutter Boy]

Everyone I've worked with in Germany has always concatenated all their titles.

They were all dingdongs though, so it doesn't disprove the rule.

Surely as a pure meritocratic honour, it's something you should approve of?

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

Pretty much everywhere in the world uses them more than the UK. Which is odd considering how class and hierarchy conscious we are with most other things.

Martin Luther King, Brian May, John Cooper Clarke, the Klitschkos, Liam Fox and Vince Cable all use(d) theirs outside academia/medicine. I can't actually think of anyone who is entitled to use it, who doesn't

All of those people are dingdongs.

*Okay, MLK is pretty unarguably not a dingdong. And I quite like Chickentown.

 

[scaramanga]

Surely as a pure meritocratic honour, it's something you should approve of?

I have no issue with people using academic titles outside of academia - not something I would do, but it's up to them.

 

[Gutter Boy]

All of those people are dingdongs.

*Okay, MLK is pretty unarguably not a dingdong. And I quite like Chickentown.

Funny you pick those two, as MLKs apparently has plagiarism issues that for political reasons won't ever be investigated, while JCC's is an honorary one

 

[the dza]

All of those people are dingdongs.

*Okay, MLK is pretty unarguably not a dingdong. And I quite like Chickentown.

I was listening to Evidently Chickentown earlier today. A weird coincidence.

And of course, why "they" had MLK killed:

One day we must ask the question, “Why are there forty million poor people in America?” And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising questions about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth. When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. And I’m simply saying that more and more, we’ve got to begin to ask questions about the whole society.

Part of a speech a few months before he was killed. He wasn't just going for civil rights, he was aiming to unite the poor of America, whatever their race. Couldn't have that, could we?

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

Funny you pick those two, as MLKs apparently has plagiarism issues that for political reasons won't ever be investigated, while JCC's is an honorary one

What kind of investigation are you suggesting is appropriate for a PhD thesis written some seventy years ago?

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

I was listening to Evidently Chickentown earlier today. A weird coincidence.

Was it because you ended up accidentally reading yesterday's Guardian feature where celebrities quizzed him on his jeggings?

 

[the dza]

Was it because you ended up accidentally reading yesterday's Guardian feature where celebrities quizzed him on his jeggings?

Men wear jeggings? Gross. I suppose he's a skinny phucker though, probably not so bad. But still.

 

[Gutter Boy]

What kind of investigation are you suggesting is appropriate for a PhD thesis written some seventy years ago?

A research integrity one. Like these ones:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-55105920110223

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/09/german-education-minister-quits-phd-plagiarism

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

So, at 15:30 the Speaker makes his formal pronouncement of "Stop! Hammond time!" and we get a fairly meaningless budget. Apparently a 50p coin will be struck to reflect the new value of the pound on the stroke of Brexit, with a slogan "friendship with all nations" that is part of a quotation that ends "but entangling alliances with none", so basically a full-throated isolationist war cry. Which won't go down too well in NATO. tacos.

No - leavers have been betrayed by the remainer treasury.

One promise of leaving was supposed to be the abolition of the metric system. It should be a new ten shilling coin

And after all that, the new commemorative ten shilling bit didn't feature in the speech. Ridiculed into cancellation?

 

[SpurMeUp]

Conversatives trying to grab the centre and some of Labour's fire with a budget that tries to spend more and not deal with deficit.

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

Conversatives trying to grab the centre and some of Labour's fire with a budget that tries to spend more and not deal with deficit.

Meaninglessly so, though, because Hammond is basing his largesse on OBR forecasts that take a highly optimistic view of Brexit outcomes, and which will presumably be revised before too long.

 

[SpurMeUp]

Meaninglessly so, though, because Hammond is basing his largesse on OBR forecasts that take a highly optimistic view of Brexit outcomes, and which will presumably be revised before too long.

If we just cancelled Brexit, Austerity would end. Growth would return to pre-vote levels, investment into the UK would surge, and all would be well with the economy

 

[Rorschach]

If we just cancelled Brexit, Austerity would end. Growth would return to pre-vote levels, investment into the UK would surge, and all would be well with the economy

Someone should suggest this.

 

[milo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1056930198724206592

https://twitter.com/x/status/1056988229294063616

 

[Gutter Boy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1056930198724206592

https://twitter.com/x/status/1056988229294063616

If you don't vote left wing when you are young, you've got no heart

If you don't vote right right when you are middle age, you've got no brains

And so it has always been

 

[Gutter Boy]

Conversatives trying to grab the centre and some of Labour's fire with a budget that tries to spend more and not deal with deficit.

The PFI thing is interesting. They've obviously been a disaster for the country for a decade. Prohibiting future ones is a good start, but reneging existing ones is needed too. The Tories are far too business over society for that though.

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

The Tories are far too business over society for that though.

Not since 2016 they haven't been. They're the fudge business and the no-such-thing-as-society party.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Not since 2016 they haven't been. They're the fudge business and the no-such-thing-as-society party.

They already signed up to the EU state aid and competition laws as part of the withdrawal agreement, so big business is safe in its dominance