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Politics, politics, politics
- Thread starter markysimmo
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I saw that -- what a load of fannies people are now.
You are probably right though, he wouldn't make it as a leader because he's too casual/not a robot. Which is one of the things I like about him.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Indeed.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
It's not great timing, when the big news story of the past fortnight has been a mass expose on how the whole entertainment industry is based on sexual exploitation (who'd have thought it). But not a cool time for a bit of casual misogyny
If I wasn't left-wing economically I'd hate the left. Whiny c0cksuckers.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
How can you be left-wing economically?
Poor people don't want equality, they just want more money. Most socialists are the champagne variety, while most of the working class vote Tory because they aspire to climb (i.e. they look to gamble on the broken system, rather than seeking to destroy it)
To be left wing is to ignore economics and instead concentrate on feelings and other such worthless pursuits.
What kind of stupid question is that? I believe in a mixed economy where natural monopolies are owned by the public for the benefit of the public. That's left wing economically. I believe in worker's rights and trade unions -- left wing economically.
What I don't give a phuck about are people who take to twitter to drone on about the latest trivial thing they are outraged about. Many of these people are left-wing, but mainly concern themselves that nobody is being "offensive" -- when it comes to economics though, they'll wave through Tory cuts no problem (you know, brick that affects poor people) like Harriet Harman for example. Something mildly offensive "misogynist!" -- cuts that end up with disabled people dying ***crickets***.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Great remarks so true.
I agree with some of your points and others I do not but I always know and understand where your coming from. For me, money was so hard to earn and I hated the jobs I did, that I did not want others earning money for nothing, why I hate the benefit cheat people and the EU. I do understand the are people that get up and go to work everyday and need benefit top ups to survive.
Those people are alright by me, but the ones who do not go out to work and I am not talking about the disabled but the lazy. They can die in a ditch for all I care. I guess I am for the workers as long as you are prepared to go out and work. The part where I differ from a lot of core lefties is, that i would not stop people earning extra money going out and working as hard as I did for 10 years in my mid 20's set me up for life, but I earned it, it was my blood and hard work that got me there.
So I come to the end wondering if like others on here whether I fit into any party line and I do not, except to say that I think people should work and if they want more they should work more.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Yes and sadly I went there once, never again.
I think you should go on twitter and apologise for these remarks. People from the north will be very offended.
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I grew up poor and wanted equality
Germany vs USA who is more left wing, know which society I prefer
Neither are left wing. Germany is centrist like most modern economies.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Sorry - I read it as you are left-wing because of your economic position, not that you are left-wing on economics
Ok, fair enough. My reply was a bit blunt, apologies.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Richmond, where Michael Dawson and William Hague are from, is possibly the poshest place I've ever been to. Genuinely they have people that polish the cash machines every morning. There's an awful lot of the north that isn't brickholes like Leeds, Middlesborough and Blackburn
milo
Jack L. Jones
An interesting read but I don't think that it explains why negotiations are so slow.
We signed up to the EU's schedule on the first day and without complaint, after Davies spending the spring saying that discussions over this would be the "row of the summer". I think that this gets to the heart of our problem, the government have to talk tough to keep their lunatic backbenchers and the Tory press on side but this rhetoric makes progress very difficult. This meant that instead of engaging with the EU after the referendum and trying to influence how the process would run, the government was making lots of noise and setting unrealistic expectations at home.
We still see the government setting unrealistic expectations. The idea that we can have a time limited interim period is insane. A50 negotiations are not going to involve anything more than a cursory discussion on future relationship. The meat of that discussion and negotiations on an FTA/treaty will happen after March 2019. The EU are going to be unwilling to offer any transition that hands more negotiating power to us. Our preference for a sectoral Swiss style arrangement is about the most complex we could ask for and will take a lot more than two years to agree. I think that the Eurosceptics will freak when they realise the amount of power this gives the EU too.
It was negligent of the government to trigger A50 before it had an agreed position on what we wanted from negotiations. According to Robert Preston there still hasn't been a Cabinet discussion what relationship we want with the EU once we leave, what regulatory regime we put in place or how much we pay them.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...1983896204:page_id.1498276767163730&__tn__=,;
I always thought that these would be tough negotiations and said so. That concern was dismissed as fear mongering.