Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Not sure if it is draconian but I would insist on not flushing untreated water into the rivers or sea.
You can actually see it at shoreham by sea in Sussex flow out into the sea, its a disgrace.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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You can actually see it at shoreham by sea in Sussex flow out into the sea, its a disgrace.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Free our rain!
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
Here is my suggested slogan for the up coming election. Labour Re Building Britain.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
....before the +Vat kicks in
Mikey10
Frederic Kanoute
I’d be careful with that. A ton of independent schools are going to go under as a result of the 20% increase in VAT. You might end up getting 9 or 10p back for every pound you’ve paid up front - and that’s best case scenario.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I'd have gone got just 'Better' instead of the 'Change' they went for yesterday.
I'd actually have preferred them to pitch more like Roosevelt's 'New Deal' or Atlee's 'Let Us Face the Future' - something ambitious and marking the end of decline, like 'The Great Reconstruction'
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Surely ^
So who pays when it loses money? The taxpayer, right?
Yep.....before the +Vat kicks in
5 years of fees in one hit is gonna hurt like fudge but I'm not paying those fudgers any more than I have to.
I doubt this one will.
They'll have a lot fewer students (taxpayer saving of £0) but they'll be around a lot longer than any of us.
Would only make sense if they actually plan to change anything, so scared of upsetting anyone that they're not really pitching anything fresh when the country is crying out for it.
There isn't much they can do.
There's nothing left to spend because Sunak staffed it all up the wall during COVID. They can't increase taxes because we're already being taxed more heavily than the economy can cope with.
Best they can hope for is some kind of seismic tech change like Blair had with the internet to lift the economy.
There's plenty of things they can do to make the country fit for the 21st century, not everything has to cost a huge amount. House of Lords reform would be an easy cheap one for instance.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
I suspect it has its own reserves.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Don't call me Shirley
All you're describing is an investment fund. Funds sometimes lose - in that case it will be the taxpayer footing the bill.
What would the real world effect of that be? Little to nothing if anything at all. It's probably more likely to be damaging than beneficial.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Yes. And it works. Your point was it didn’t. Which doesn’t actually stack up.
Not every policy has to be earth shattering but we can do things to bring ourselves into the 21st century and it will likely bring some faith back to politics. Unlikely to be damaging, hardly any opposition to it. Only Iran I think has a larger 2nd chamber.
I mean look at the state of the country and neither main party can come up with anything remotely invigorating.
My point is obviously not that investment funds don't work, I invest in them all the time.
My point is that when it loses money, it's the taxpayer that gets hit. Rather unfairly, it's the hardest working who get hit disproportionately.