StephenH
David Ginola
yes Theresa!
Or ATM not at all!
Austerity is only affordable by those who don’t notice it!
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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yes Theresa!
Or ATM not at all!
Austerity is only affordable by those who don’t notice it!
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
This lot are trying to start their term by bankrupting us
The country has to do well so that we can afford to pay for those who need it.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Interesting.
These happen rarely happen overnight.
Perhaps something to do with more management and lack of foresight previously?
Short-term thinking is a surefire path to bankruptcy.
Spending more than you can afford to is the usual route.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Spending incorrectly and diverting funds, thus increasing the costs for the next person might just do it to.
You can't run public services like household or business finance unless you are prepared for people to suffer or die.
Some people are ok with that position.
I'm not.
Someone somewhere in the world that you could have saved by spending a bit more will die every day, probably every minute.
You have to accept a balance between helping as many people as you can and being responsible enough to be able to help them tomorrow.
StephenH
David Ginola
When did you have to use a food bank?
Your logic is easy to sprout when you have more than enough money!
If I spent more than I could afford I'd be using one pretty quickly - that's kind of my point.
StephenH
David Ginola
Yes but you have never had to choose who eats in your family, you or your kids!
Pontificating about good housekeeping presupposes you have the luxury of choice.
‘Walk a mile in my shoes’ before you criticise.
Not my shoes personally btw.
I’m lucky
I wasn't, I was pointing out that if the government overspends now then it can't help anyone tomorrow when it's skint.
We all want the government to help those who need it - Labour don't seem to realise that if they kill the golden goose, it stops laying eggs.
StephenH
David Ginola
But the conservatives just don’t bother to help because of their ideologies and fiscal ingrained priorities towards big business.
We need to change the government’s priorities back to people and away from purely balancing the books.
I think that's a caricature that bears little resemblance to reality.
StephenH
David Ginola
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
But the books aren't being balanced, which tends to detract from your argument a little.
Debt interest represented the government's 5th highest expenditure category in 2017 according to wikipedia, higher than categories such as public order (I assume that means policing), social services, and housing. That's before all the promised additional borrowing kicks in.
StephenH
David Ginola
I’m talking about real people and truly don’t give a toss about the debate!
My 85 yo step dad has been lying in A&E for the last 8 hours waiting for a bed on a ward to come free at the Princess Royal Hayward’s Heath. This is the real world not ideological banter!
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
Your previous comments seem to suggest otherwise, but my best wishes to your step dad.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
It's official! Political scientist Adrian Beaumont has analyzed the data from five polls and Labour's vote had collapsed amongs the poorly educated. These voters are surging to the Tories. Tells you everything you need to know about this coming Thursday's result.