Kingdawson
Banned
oh wait Andy Carroll hit 6 in 44 for Liverpool so that's a bigger waste of money.
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Our strikers next season
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Yes well last season was bad for everyone in one sense or another, hardly anyone came out of it with much credit. Clean slate for him and everyone else this season IMO....
Kingdawson
Banned
and what happens when he fails again this season? maybe we'll say it's Poch's first season so that's why Soldado couldn't score enough as he's getting used to the tactics.
I can only speak for myself but if he doesn't show a better return this season then for sure send him back to Spain. It takes a season to adapt to PL, hardly unheard of for a player to perform a lot better after their debut season - I think a proven goalscorer such as him deserves the opportunity to show he can cut it in this league....
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I'm with you on that. Seeing him play live (cf on tv) really changed my mind on him. There's a real player in there
I'm trying to stay away from the whole Soldado conversation
Soldado/Ade seems to be the new Defoe/Keane on this board, if you say anything positive about one, must mean you think the other is ****, one cannot succeed without the other failing ..
BOTH have the technical ability to be 15-20+ goal a season strikers, and I personally would love a Keane/Berbatov year out of them. From a club perspective, it seems like a little bit of a gamble that any injuries exposes pretty badly.
Soldado/Ade seems to be the new Defoe/Keane on this board, if you say anything positive about one, must mean you think the other is ****, one cannot succeed without the other failing ..
BOTH have the technical ability to be 15-20+ goal a season strikers, and I personally would love a Keane/Berbatov year out of them. From a club perspective, it seems like a little bit of a gamble that any injuries exposes pretty badly.
sc25
Banned
Thats a common assertion in here, particularly as it pertains to many of our new signings it seems. If its true, however, then why are so many 'season long loan deals' transacted between clubs these days? Surely the receiving clubs in such deals are not putting that much weight in 'take time settling in/adapt/adjust/new coach/new system/new country/new league, new language, new housing, no relatives, new teammates, speed and pace of play, less room/space to play in, new formation, new surroundings' etc? Just as an example, when Chelsea signed Eto last year on a season long loan (and he had never played in PL before), regardless of how well he actually did, do you think a 'season-long adaption' is what they had in mind when they signed him?
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SoundAndVision
Michael Brown
:lol::lol:
Personally I think rodriquez is over-rated, certainly over-valued. However in terms of this thread, I agree that our CFs are complementary. I also think we have higher priorities for funds in the next couple windows rather than CF, namely:
- a CM who can pass the ball - this is urgent!!
- a new CB (I cant see Kaboul or Chiriches being what we need)
- a 'LWF' to play alongside Eriksen and Lamela
thats potentially the best part of £50m of deals and only after that I think is CF a priority
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
The difference is that one of them is consistently ****, the other is inconsistently ****.
I'm hoping Kane gets the Europa and the early cup rounds, that should reduce the workload for ade and soldado.
I think that's the general opinion most have - As has been repeated a million times, last season with all the chopping and changing on and off the field it was hardly the best introduction to a new league - most people hope he (and our other signings) can improve in what hopefully will be a more settled enviroment - maybe he will, maybe he won't - but for the love of GHod can we at least let him get on with it?
It's a valid question and one I don't think can be answered. Some do hit the ground running, others don't...like you alluded to with etoo a lot of loans aren't successful. I'm not making excuses for Soldado, sometimes you need a season to adapt both I. Your personal life and on the pitch. Sometimes you're just not cut out for this league, I just want to give him this season to find out...
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Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Hmm. Bit off with that prediction so far. I must chastise my AM supporting family for convincing me of that ****.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I reckon if Roberto Soldado was called Robert Smith, had cost £2.6 million and been signed from Villa instead of Valencia then pretty much everybody on here would be saying that he was a useless waste of money and we might as well release him.
I think a lot of people have been blinded by the £26 million fee and just refuse to believe that we could've paid £26 million for such a limited player.
I was prepared to give Soldado the benefit of the doubt while we were being managed by AVB - as his tactics were so poor and didn't result in us creating enough good chances, but when Soldado got no better (and perhaps even worse) after Sherwood came in and got us moving it forward more quickly I thought it was clear that he just isn't good enough to play up top in the Premiership. The fact that Harry Kane came in and instantly looked far better than Soldado just confirmed it.
Now we have failed to sell him this Summer I fear we will be stuck with him for the length of his contract and have to pay his (not doubt considerable) wage for the next few years and then release him on a free at the end of his contract.
I think a lot of people have been blinded by the £26 million fee and just refuse to believe that we could've paid £26 million for such a limited player.
I was prepared to give Soldado the benefit of the doubt while we were being managed by AVB - as his tactics were so poor and didn't result in us creating enough good chances, but when Soldado got no better (and perhaps even worse) after Sherwood came in and got us moving it forward more quickly I thought it was clear that he just isn't good enough to play up top in the Premiership. The fact that Harry Kane came in and instantly looked far better than Soldado just confirmed it.
Now we have failed to sell him this Summer I fear we will be stuck with him for the length of his contract and have to pay his (not doubt considerable) wage for the next few years and then release him on a free at the end of his contract.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Agree with that. Next window or two is pretty much just about going back in for Schneiderlin, Musacchio/Moreno and Rodriguez, or equivalents.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I agree about giving him time.
The problem, or perhaps just situation, right now for him is that he seems behind both Ade and Kane in the line for that single striker spot. This perhaps at least partly because he's seemingly not the type of striker Poch prefers.
It's a real uphill battle from that to nailing down a starting spot. Not saying it's impossible, but it will be very difficult. So although I do think he deserves a chance, and although I do think he's a lot better than he showed last season, I'm not very hopeful that he will show a completely different side this season.
chicken_badge
Gudni Bergsson
Poch is clearly satisfied with what we have. There have been no signings in this position and the transfer rumours were all weak. The closest we came was hesitant interest in Rodriguez and he is still a number of weeks off fitness.
Soldado will get his chances I think, mainly Europa and possibly subs in the PL. Up to him to take the chances. Otherwise either Kane or Ade, with goals expected from Chadli, Eriksen, Lamela.
Soldado will get his chances I think, mainly Europa and possibly subs in the PL. Up to him to take the chances. Otherwise either Kane or Ade, with goals expected from Chadli, Eriksen, Lamela.