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OMT. Tottenham vs Philips Sport Vereniging Eindhoven.

Liverpool and United both tried for the Europa when they were in it, didn't do them much harm, both finalists with United winning it and Liverpool reaching the CL Final only 2 years after it.

Embarrasing that people value top 4 so highly over actually winning things, epecially when said trophy gets you a place in the CL anyway.
 
balesleftboot said:
Liverpool and United both tried for the Europa when they were in it, didn't do them much harm, both finalists with United winning it and Liverpool reaching the CL Final only 2 years after it.

Embarrasing that people value top 4 so highly over actually winning things, epecially when said trophy gets you a place in the CL anyway.
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The key in my view is making sure you dont overplay people. We have a core group of say 18-20 players who, apart from the lines of Kane, are somewhat interchangeable so means that for an EL game before, say, the semi finals we could leave 5-6 players out entirely for each game (feet up at home rather than on the bench) and have 3 of the 7 sub spots taken by kids.

That should be good enough to have a real go at winning it and mean it shouldn't impact our league prospects much
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
I dont think the Europa league is beneath us, I think its a bricky competition designed to keep developing teams out of the CL.

Its a quagmire, a bloody swamp you get bogged down in, and it sucks the life out of your domestic form.

And, when all is said and done, its a secondary competition. Like the Carling cup is to the FA Cup, nobody actually gives a brick about it and who wins it.

I would gladly ditch it completely to qualify for the CL next season.
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So what are we going to win that’s deemed acceptable?
 
Legohamster said:
So what are we going to win that’s deemed acceptable?
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Chances are slim we would win the Europa. Dropping into the knockouts is an advantage but its still far from a given.

If we are in it, Id like to win it - hardly saying otherwise - but given the choice Id duck the competition entirely as I think its poison.
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
Chances are slim we would win the Europa. Dropping into the knockouts is an advantage but its still far from a given.

If we are in it, Id like to win it - hardly saying otherwise - but given the choice Id duck the competition entirely as I think its poison.
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The only teams that are in it we should fear are Arsenal/Chelsea and the drop out from Liverpool’s group.

I doubt we can get those for the first round at least as it’s seeded.

I’m not sure we can even get another English side till the 1/4s?
 
Legohamster said:
In the knock out stages of the Europa it’s not much different than the CL game wise.

We should be going for it if we are in it
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Mikey10 said:
This. Absolutely.

Imo we need to shake this largely Poch-inspired idea that the Europa is beneath us. It may well be our most realistic route into the Champions League next year.

We have a group of players who have been tipped to do great things but who are struggling to get over the line. Until they do (and it’s looking increasingly likely that this group in its current form won’t) then EVERY cup should be a priority. Fudge absolutely this idea that certain cups are beneath us - they are the only cups we have a realistic chance of winning.
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balesleftboot said:
Liverpool and United both tried for the Europa when they were in it, didn't do them much harm, both finalists with United winning it and Liverpool reaching the CL Final only 2 years after it.

Embarrasing that people value top 4 so highly over actually winning things, epecially when said trophy gets you a place in the CL anyway.
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Could not agree more, its a cup we could win ( and entry to the champs lge), shameful ( imo) for some fans who think we are above, to good for this.
 
90291Spur said:
Funny this thing about winning a trophy and the magical powers it can bestow upon the winner. If I recall correctly, our captain and keeper Hugo lloris recently won a trophy and it doesn't seem to have transformed him into anything greater that he was before.
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Winning a trophy is more about what it can do for the team rather than an individual player. No one says it magically makes players better, but can enhance the mentality of the group. A fairer comparison would be to see how France as a team go on now they’ve won a tournament....
 
All this talk of the Europa is pointless as we'll beat psv and Inter at home and then them two will draw with each other sending us through in second.

*our win at home to Inter will be in a manner that gives us the head to head edge and just as an fyi we'll draw in the nou camp against an unmotivated and messi-less Barcelona.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I did read on the BBC feed yesterday that Lozano has had 30 different players booked in a season... that’s some odd fact
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Cheating from the first minutes. Got Dembele a booking early. I “think” he was who Lamela got tagged for a foul on before Eriksen’s brainfart. A horrible player and one I hope we never ever see at Spurs. We won’t. Poch has higher aims than that!


Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
 
harr1984 said:
Winning a trophy is more about what it can do for the team rather than an individual player. No one says it magically makes players better, but can enhance the meteorology of the group. A fairer comparison would be to see how France as a team go on now they’ve won a tournament....
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Lots of people say it magically makes a group better. It really helped us when we won the carling Cup in 2008... Or did it?
 
90291Spur said:
Funny this thing about winning a trophy and the magical powers it can bestow upon the winner. If I recall correctly, our captain and keeper Hugo lloris recently won a trophy and it doesn't seem to have transformed him into anything greater that he was before.
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And Heung-Min Son just won the Asian Cup but hasn’t exactly been pulling up trees since his return either.
 
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