NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
I think you are slightly misguided or a bit niave, I would expect Moyes to go for a win. We have been very poor recently and are without key attacking players
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OMT - Tottenham vs. Everton
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I think you are slightly misguided or a bit niave, I would expect Moyes to go for a win. We have been very poor recently and are without key attacking players
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
If Everton beat us, they're 3 points behind us with a game in hand...
Dr Rosenrosen
Ramon Vega
With all due respect to your daughter, there is no way Ade could even reach the goal with a shot from outside the area.
Nigeyman
Chris Armstrong
Well I have shaved and of course he could - thats a bit silly - obviously my daughter doesnt understand the concept of negativity to our players she just cheers them on because thats what pleases her barmy spurs loving Dad.
Ade-bashing is one thing but to suggest he doesnt have the power in his togolese legs to reach the goal with a shot outside the box......well have you been on the funny juice????
SERIOUSLY
If ade didnt walk around with that stupid grin and got proper riled im sure there could be an incredible hulk syndrome going on.
He has all the tools but just doesnt seem to apply himself.
Either way if the unthinkable happens and this comes to fruition not only would i require an apology but i would suggest you could kiss my rectum also.
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This. Although he always seemed to manage it for le scum against us...
Anyway.....
---------------Lloris(fit?)-----------------
Walker---Dawson-----Caulker--Vertonghen
---------Parker------Dembele-------------
Sig-----------Dempsey-------------Holtby
-------------Adebayor-------------------
I believe this season Lloris has emphatically demonstrated why he is a far more suitable candidate in goal than Friedel, and if he's fit he has to start. Although they're missing Fellaini, the thought of Friedel in goal as Baines whips in corners and freekicks is frightening.
I am very worried about this game, chiefly because we will lack any width whatsoever. To combat this I would like to see Walker at RB and Vertonghen at LB. We all know Walker's strengths in this regard (extreme pace, willingness to hit the byline, decent at cutting the ball back), but I feel Vertonghen would actually provide more of a wide threat in advanced areas than Benny. Against Fulham at home Benny was totally lost at LM and often simply ended up swapping with Vertonghen (more out of timidity than clever movement), who likes to get forward anyway. Caulker is also capable of driving out of defense if we need that surprise factor. Finally, having an extra tall bloke might help with defending set-pieces.
Hopefully those two would provide enough of an overlapping threat to compensate with the weakness of our midfield in wide areas. It would be nice to see Holtby on the left and Sigurdsson on the right to begin with, with one of them within 5 yards of the touchline at all times, and to see them try to beat their man and get the cross/pull-back in at least on occasion. This might be a tad idealistic, but we lack structure without a proper winger, stricter instructions would open up a bit of space in the middle. If we are struggling after 20-30 mins I would let them off the leash a bit more. If Parker continues to churn out the dross that he demonstrated against Basel midweek then he has to come off for Tom Carroll, it is imperative that we circulate the ball quickly from side to side and Parker of late has been a pit of quicksand, slowly killing the impetus of our attacks with his indecision.
I think in attack it is a toss up between Dempsey and Defoe as to who partners Adebayor. It would be a tragic mistake to start Defoe as the lone striker and as such Ade has to lead the line. With our enforced changes in midfield, Defoe might benefit from playing ahead of 2 AMs who are more likely to play him in behind than cross it to him. Then again, we are playing Everton at home, which means the space in behind will likely be precious little, and neither Defoe's movement nor our midfield's passing range are good enough to catch Everton out with a long pass on the break. So I would pick Dempsey. He is a goalscorer and in absence of Bale along with the form of Ade and Defoe, he could be the man to step up - he can finish tap-ins, long-shots, volleys, headers and is our biggest remaining goal threat. Plus I think he would benefit from playing with Adebayor, who often vacates the space that Dempsey loves to attack.
A massive game, we need to control the midfield, otherwise Baines will *struggle cuddle* us down the left without Azza there to help Walker. Parker has looked slow as treacle recently as well and based on the Basel game will provide scant cover. Stretching Everton by taking up wide positions and quickly circulating the ball from flank to flank will be key.
COYS!
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thfcsteff
George Hunt
OK, this would be my team (I doubt he will play it)...taking Lennon to be injured...
Lloris
Walker
Caulker
Dawson
Verts
Hudd
Sig
Parker
Holtby
Dembele
Ade
subs: Brad, BAE, Naughton, Dempsey, Carroll (if fit), Obika, Livermore
My rationale is that you cannot manufacture width if you don't have it naturally. I see us as having to really grind one out tomm, and so we really have to take a bit of a gamble.
My gamble would be to sit Hudd in front of the back four, play an industrious midfield trio and allow Dembele a freer role to float behind Ade. The hope is that Hudd can hit the front earlier with pinpoint passing. It would see Ade very much playing as FORWARD and not as a 'drop-off' frontman.
IF Hudd is simply brick, then EITHER BAE on and Verts into a holding midfield role OR Dembele back into a straight 'four' with Dempsey on as the link to Ade.
Of course I do not think AVB WILL start with this, but I think it'd be a line-up designed to get the very best out of what we have versus trying to manufacture pace which we clearly will not have like we usually do.
Lloris
Walker
Caulker
Dawson
Verts
Hudd
Sig
Parker
Holtby
Dembele
Ade
subs: Brad, BAE, Naughton, Dempsey, Carroll (if fit), Obika, Livermore
My rationale is that you cannot manufacture width if you don't have it naturally. I see us as having to really grind one out tomm, and so we really have to take a bit of a gamble.
My gamble would be to sit Hudd in front of the back four, play an industrious midfield trio and allow Dembele a freer role to float behind Ade. The hope is that Hudd can hit the front earlier with pinpoint passing. It would see Ade very much playing as FORWARD and not as a 'drop-off' frontman.
IF Hudd is simply brick, then EITHER BAE on and Verts into a holding midfield role OR Dembele back into a straight 'four' with Dempsey on as the link to Ade.
Of course I do not think AVB WILL start with this, but I think it'd be a line-up designed to get the very best out of what we have versus trying to manufacture pace which we clearly will not have like we usually do.
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
Am I the only one concerned about the lack of any offensive pace and league goals on that team?
Dempsey 5
Vertonghen 5
Ade 2
Caulker 2
Sig 1
Dembele 1
Dawson 1
Howard 0
Hibbert 0
Jagielka 1
Distin 0
Baines 5
Coleman 0
Hitzlsperger 0
Neville 0
Mirallas 3
Osman 5
Jelavic 7
However they line up I'd bet on Coleman being a pain in our arse and scoring his first of the season. We need to shore up our left side
-------------- Lloris
Naughton Dawson Vertonghen BAE
--------- Parker Dembele
Walker ------ Dempsey ---- Holtby
--------------- Ade
Either this or Sig for Holtby or Sig on the right and Walker at the back.
Hibbert 0
Jagielka 1
Distin 0
Baines 5
Coleman 0
Hitzlsperger 0
Neville 0
Mirallas 3
Osman 5
Jelavic 7
However they line up I'd bet on Coleman being a pain in our arse and scoring his first of the season. We need to shore up our left side
-------------- Lloris
Naughton Dawson Vertonghen BAE
--------- Parker Dembele
Walker ------ Dempsey ---- Holtby
--------------- Ade
Either this or Sig for Holtby or Sig on the right and Walker at the back.
greatwhitenorf
Edgar Davids
Have you considered seeking company for your misery in some other location? No one's buying that brick.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
I absolutely think this match is going to be about gritting one out. It will not be pretty, but for 95 minutes I do not care so long as we win. This could be the biggest 3 points of the season, not dissimilar to when Hudd hit that rocket against Bolton at home a few years back...
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indianspur
Guest
i would love it if we win ugly.................love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COYS, grind grind grind out a win today
COYS, grind grind grind out a win today
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
fudge it. Let's play him as striker then.
charlietheyid
Banned
Im trying to keep optimistic but it is very hard. It is I am sure for anyone who was at the fulham game.
The team cant pass, cant keep the ball. We simply have no quality over the midfield and the wings and Bale is out.
We need Siggy and Ade, Holtby & Lennon to step up big time, and show they can at least get a goal or two because top players they'll never be.
fudge it, were fudged anyway, I'm not normally one for drastic changes of formation but what choice do we have? I think this one maximises what width we could hope to generate while minimising the amount of square pegs in round holes...
........................Lloris
......Caulker......Dawson....Vertonghen
Walker......................................Assou-Ekotto
................Parker......Dembele
........................Holtby
..........Adebayor..............Defoe
........................Lloris
......Caulker......Dawson....Vertonghen
Walker......................................Assou-Ekotto
................Parker......Dembele
........................Holtby
..........Adebayor..............Defoe
I think we all do. My one hope is that the team gets really fired up to grind out a result and our work rate and determination make up for the big drop-off in quality and pace due to the injuries
Exactly, performance is irrelevant today - just the result that matters, particularly after the goons victory yesterday. Arse are looking good and we need to now step up as we cant simply rely on Chelsea's cup commitments meaning they fall away
Am surprised by the amount that people want to fudge about with our line up today; various people are suggesting:
- 3-5-2
- Walker at RW
- Livermore and Parker as a CM combination
- Thudd starting despite barely playing this season
Need to stick to the formation we know and keep round pegs in round holes. That means Dembele and Parker need to start together in CM and Siggy, Holtby and Dempsey behind Ade