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****OMT- TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR VS Panathinaikos**********

Elaborate, please
HI SD, as Jordinho says in his helpful rundown, lose this and we're out. Of course, if you don't mind us going out, then fair enough we can afford to lose.

I don't want to see us go out, neither does AVB IMHO, so I expect him to pick a strong team and rightfully so. Naturally, we'll all have different definitions of a 'strong team' but mine is the one I've indicated.
 
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--------------------------------Friedel------------------------------

Naughton------------Gallas-----------Caulker-------------Walker

Lennon-----------Huddlestone--------Carroll-------------Dempsey

------------------------------Sigurddson----------------------------

------------------------------Adebayor-------------------------------


That team is crazy but logical. Why not?
 
--------------------------------Friedel------------------------------

Naughton------------Gallas-----------Caulker-------------Walker

Lennon-----------Huddlestone--------Carroll-------------Dempsey

------------------------------Sigurddson----------------------------

------------------------------Adebayor-------------------------------


Subs: Cudicini, Vertonghen, Dembele, Townsend, Livermore, Falque, Defoe


Two ball playing midfielders? We're either going to dominate or be destroyed.

As an aside i'm ever hopeful Bae and Parker can get on the bench for this one.
 
As Jordinho says in his helpful rundown, lose this and we're out.

Worth bearing in mind but the more positive vibe is that we only need to draw and these bastards can't even afford to pay their electric bill.
I saw one of them trying to top up their key at Costcutters and the credit card was declined.
 
HI SD, as Jordinho says in his helpful rundown, lose this and we're out. Of course, if you don't mind us going out, then fair enough we can afford to lose.

I don't want to see us go out, neither does AVB IMHO, so I expect him to pick a strong team and rightfully so. Naturally, we'll all have different definitions of a 'strong team' but mine is the one I've indicated.

Must win.
 
Well must win or not, it's certainly a 'mustn't lose' if we are to progress, hence why I think we should start most of the team that played against Fulham.
 
Please can we rest Vertonghan? He seems to play every game - not sure why given we have Naughton and Walker who can play in games like this
 
Please can we rest Vertonghan? He seems to play every game - not sure why given we have Naughton and Walker who can play in games like this

Because neither Naughton or Walker are as good at LB as he is.

it'd be a big risk v Pana to rest JV, I wouldn't do it, I wonder if AVb will.

Funnily enough when AVB did rest JV we were doing fine, then bizarrely he brought him on for Carroll, a massive mistake v Norwich.
 
Because neither Naughton or Walker are as good at LB as he is.

it'd be a big risk v Pana to rest JV, I wouldn't do it, I wonder if AVb will.

Funnily enough when AVB did rest JV we were doing fine, then bizarrely he brought him on for Carroll, a massive mistake v Norwich.


Irrelevant surely? You can't play him for the whole season, so whenever you do drop him you're going to have to play someone of a lower quality.


Naughton is good enough at LB for Panathinaikos.
 
I thought AVB said the players can have a rest after the Everton game, which would mean him playing his strongest team vs. Panathinaikos?
 
He's played virtually our strongest side in the previous 5 games, I'm sure he's not going to stop now when our qualification is at stake.
 
He's played virtually our strongest side in the previous 5 games, I'm sure he's not going to stop now when our qualification is at stake.

Exactly, I think he'll play most of our current 'first XI' and rightly so, we can't afford to slip up now having done the hard bit in Lazio. Lloris JV etc I'd play them all.
 
Previous meetings

• The sides drew 1-1 when they met for the first time on matchday two. Michael Dawson headed the English team ahead in a first half characterised by a slow tempo, but Spurs paid for a lapse of concentration as Toche levelled with 13 minutes remaining.

• Spurs' five games against Greek clubs have ended W1 D2 L2 (W1 D0 L1 at home – W0 D2 L1 in Greece). They met PAOK FC in last season's group stage, drawing 0-0 in Salonika and losing 2-1 in London. They have not won in four matches against Greek opposition.

• Panathinaikos's record in 17 games against English teams is W1 D6 L10 (W1 D4 L4 in Athens – W0 D2 L6 in England). That lone victory came against Spurs' north London rivals Arsenal FC in the UEFA Champions League group stage on 26 September 2001.

• Panathinaikos ended a run of three straight defeats in London (all against Arsenal) when they drew 1-1 with the Gunners in their most recent visit to England, in the 2004/05 UEFA Champions League group stage.

Match background

• Spurs are unbeaten in their last six European games, but that last defeat came against another Greek side – 2-1 against PAOK last season.

• Panathinaikos have lost their four most recent UEFA Europa League away games –the last three by the same 3-0 scoreline – without scoring.

• This is Panathinaikos's fourth UEFA Cup and UEFA Europa League group stage campaign, and they have successfully reached the knockout phase of the competition in all of their previous efforts.

• Spurs are returning to the group stage of this competition for a fifth time. Including their 2010/11 UEFA Champions League campaign, they have reached the knockout phase in four of their five previous UEFA group stage attempts, missing the cut for the first time in last term's UEFA Europa League.

Team facts

• This is Spurs' 100th UEFA Cup and UEFA Europa League game; their previous 99 ended W56 D26 L17.

• Spurs and FC Twente have been the group stage's draw specialists, with four ties each from their five games. The Dutch side, however, are already certain to miss out on a place in the round of 32.

• Helder Postiga played for both clubs: he represented Spurs in 2003/04 and then spent half a season on loan at Panathinaikos in 2008.

• Panathinaikos's Ghana winger Quincy Owusu-Abeyie had a trial at Tottenham in January 2009. He started his career at Arsenal, and also played for Birmingham City FC, Cardiff City FC and Portsmouth FC during his time in England.

• Other Greens players with Premier League experience include Jean-Alain Boumsong (Saudi Sportswashing Machine FC) and Sebastian Leto (Liverpool FC).

• Panathinaikos defender Jose Manuel Velazquez and Tottenham attacking midfielder Iago Falque spent a season together in the Villarreal CF B team in 2010/11.

• Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas received his first break in coaching as a teenager from then Porto boss Sir Bobby Robson, and later assisted Jose Mourinho at Porto, Chelsea FC and FC Internazionale Milano, before striking out alone at A. Academica de Coimbra and then leading Porto to a domestic double and the UEFA Cup in 2010/11. A move to Chelsea that summer proved to be ill-fated, but he took charge at Spurs in July 2012.

• Andre Pinto was on the books at Porto during Villas-Boas's spell in charge, though he spent that season on loan with Portimonense SC.

• Panathinaikos parted company with coach Jesualdo Ferreira after matchday four, with the Under-20 coaching team of Ioannis Vanortas and Juan Ramon Rocha taking charge for the remainder of the season. A midfielder for the club from 1979-89, Rocha was Panathinaikos coach from 1994-96, leading the Greens to the 1995/96 UEFA Champions League semi-finals, and was briefly caretaker boss again in 1999.
 
My team would be:

------------Friedel----------------

Walker----Caulker---Gallas-----Naughton

Siggy------Carroll----Sandro-----Falque

----------Dempsey----Defoe---------

Lennon has actually been quite poor attacking recently I would rest him and give Siggy or Townsend a start. Obviously Falque in to replace Bale and save Dembele for the weekend. Carroll has actually looked very sharp recently and I think deserves to start over Huddlestone on merit. I would give Vertonghen a rest as he has played nearly every game and can always bring him off the bench if needed.

2-0 Tottenham

Defoe X2
 
My team would be:

------------Friedel----------------

Walker----Caulker---Gallas-----Naughton

Siggy------Carroll----Sandro-----Falque

----------Dempsey----Defoe---------

Lennon has actually been quite poor attacking recently I would rest him and give Siggy or Townsend a start. Obviously Falque in to replace Bale and save Dembele for the weekend. Carroll has actually looked very sharp recently and I think deserves to start over Huddlestone on merit. I would give Vertonghen a rest as he has played nearly every game and can always bring him off the bench if needed.

2-0 Tottenham

Defoe X2

Why not play Ade. ??????
 
My team would be:

------------Friedel----------------

Walker----Caulker---Gallas-----Naughton

Siggy------Carroll----Sandro-----Falque

----------Dempsey----Defoe---------

Lennon has actually been quite poor attacking recently I would rest him and give Siggy or Townsend a start. Obviously Falque in to replace Bale and save Dembele for the weekend. Carroll has actually looked very sharp recently and I think deserves to start over Huddlestone on merit. I would give Vertonghen a rest as he has played nearly every game and can always bring him off the bench if needed.

2-0 Tottenham

Defoe X2

Agree with your comment about Lennon. But surely Ade must start this one with or without Defoe
 
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