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***OMT*** Tottenham Hotspur vs Crystal Palace
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I really am looking forward to seeing us play. I want to see where we are strong and our weaknesses. Right now I feel our fullbacks and potentially wingers/wide forwards will let us down. The spine is strong. But who knows we'll find out more after a few games in.
They seem to want their team to line up something like this:
------------- Speroni
Ward - Gabbidon - Delaney - Moxey
-----Campana ----- Jedinak
Gayle ------- Dobbie ----- Williams
------------ Chamakh
Jerome Thomas and Elliot Grandin are other possibilities. Phillips on the bench obviously.
------------- Speroni
Ward - Gabbidon - Delaney - Moxey
-----Campana ----- Jedinak
Gayle ------- Dobbie ----- Williams
------------ Chamakh
Jerome Thomas and Elliot Grandin are other possibilities. Phillips on the bench obviously.
SpurMeUp
Gary Stevens
Last year we didn't have a convincing midfield. This year we're stocked! Very excited about us having a settled quality midfield. Rose and Walker are similar with Walker more established and hopefully calmer now. For me Rose is similar to how Walker was, a little raw defensively but exciting going forward. They are both the same age, so I hope they can mature together and kick on. They're both talented and dedicated, which is a good start!
I think you're right. We'll need to wait 10 games for the side to settle. In the mean time, we'll hopefully pickup points. AVB has proved a master at getting points despite not having ideal preparation or amazing performances.
Amor
Nicola Berti
You sure?
The Moonlit Knight
Banned
:lol:
clevelandspur
Pascal Chimbonda
Buzzing already for the season to start my team would be:
-----------------Lloris------------------
Walker------Kaboul---Dawson-------Rose
---------Paulinho------Dembele--------
Townsend-------Sigurdsson---------Chadli
---------------Soldado-------------------
Bench: Friedel, BAE, Lennon, Adebayor, Defoe, Capoue, Vertonghen
-----------------Lloris------------------
Walker------Kaboul---Dawson-------Rose
---------Paulinho------Dembele--------
Townsend-------Sigurdsson---------Chadli
---------------Soldado-------------------
Bench: Friedel, BAE, Lennon, Adebayor, Defoe, Capoue, Vertonghen
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
That would be my team too. But I bet AVB will start with Lennon.
The Moonlit Knight
Banned
I'd go 4-4-2 with the current squad.
--------------Lloris---------------
Walker---Dawson---Kaboul----Ekotto
Lennon--Sandro---Dembele---Townsend
----------Soldado---Adebayor---
With Bale and Vertonghen out that's probably our best and most balanced XI. Paulinho and Chadli can then be blooded slowly (in place of Dembele and Townsend I'd imagine).
With our midfield being completely devoid of flair and creativity and with at least one of our wide men not really suited to a 433 or more advanced inside forward position, I really really hope we don't play one up top.....
--------------Lloris---------------
Walker---Dawson---Kaboul----Ekotto
Lennon--Sandro---Dembele---Townsend
----------Soldado---Adebayor---
With Bale and Vertonghen out that's probably our best and most balanced XI. Paulinho and Chadli can then be blooded slowly (in place of Dembele and Townsend I'd imagine).
With our midfield being completely devoid of flair and creativity and with at least one of our wide men not really suited to a 433 or more advanced inside forward position, I really really hope we don't play one up top.....
4-2-3-1 was awesome for us in away games last season, so I'm guessing we'll line up that way for our opener.
Assuming Vertonghen isn't quite ready, then I think it will be:
---------------lloris
walker---dawson----kaboul---rose
--------paulinho----dembele
--lennon------sig--------chadli
------------soldaddy
bench: friedel, naughton, fryers, capoue, sandro, townsend, defoe. (sandro and capoue won't be rushed into things imo. Kaboul looked good to go v Espanyol, so he will start I think).
Looking at that lineup, you can see why -- even if we keep Bale -- we might want to bring in Lamela and/or Willian. Would make a huge difference to the quality we have in the final third.
Assuming Vertonghen isn't quite ready, then I think it will be:
---------------lloris
walker---dawson----kaboul---rose
--------paulinho----dembele
--lennon------sig--------chadli
------------soldaddy
bench: friedel, naughton, fryers, capoue, sandro, townsend, defoe. (sandro and capoue won't be rushed into things imo. Kaboul looked good to go v Espanyol, so he will start I think).
Looking at that lineup, you can see why -- even if we keep Bale -- we might want to bring in Lamela and/or Willian. Would make a huge difference to the quality we have in the final third.
Ian Holloway's insomnia at Crystal Palace worsened by Prozone addiction
The manager has been burning the midnight oil to devise a plan that will prevent Palace going straight back down
Ian Holloway is exhausted and the season has not even started yet. A good night's sleep is a pipe dream. Instead, Holloway has found himself staying up watching videos, analysing opponents and scouting potential signings, all in a bid to give Crystal Palace the best possible chance of Premier League survival, which the majority of pundits expect to be beyond them.
It seems an unenviable task and Holloway cut a weary, frustrated figure at Palace's training ground this week as the disappointment of missing out on Darren Bent, who signed for Fulham, and worries about the thinness of his squad take their toll. Such is life for the manager of a newly-promoted side.
"You can ask my wife what time I finish and what time I start," Holloway said. "She'll tell you, last night it was half past 12, watching clips. I'm trying to play catch-up. Half past 12. I'm having to watch players and players and players. I don't think this time last year Crystal Palace would have had a scouting network going through the whole of Europe to find players to play in the Premier League. It's tiring."
However, it will all be worth it if Holloway can achieve the impossible and keep Palace in the top flight. The odds are against him and so is history – Palace have been relegated in each of their previous four seasons in the revamped top division. However, a deeper concern is Holloway's fear that his squad is not ready to take on such a daunting challenge. He has lost his star player, Wilfried Zaha, to Manchester United, Glenn Murray, who scored 31 goals last season, damaged his cruciate ligament in May and Palace will face Tottenham Hotspur at Selhurst Park on Sunday with a squad depleted by injuries. Holloway fears he will not be able to fill his 25-man squad unless he adds to the eight signings he has already made.
None of this, though, should lead to the assumption that there is a defeatist air around Palace, who have made a habit of confounding expectations under Holloway, who replaced Dougie Freedman as manager last November after the Scot joined Bolton Wanderers.
Palace were not even expected to challenge for promotion, they were expected to lose to Brighton & Hove Albion in their play-off semi-final and they were expected to go down to Watford in the final. They are used to people writing them off. The response tends to be one of defiance.
"I think people are just quoting stats and good luck to them – everybody's got to earn a living doing whatever they do," Holloway said. "But it's amazing what can motivate you. We will want to be as good as we can be and keep working hard. That's all you'll see from my team, no matter what. We'll keep fighting, we'll keep battling and I remember 60 or 70 days ago that we were written off in the play-offs. Even after the first game in the play-offs, people wrote us off. Even after the first half of the first game of the play-offs."
Holloway was in a similar position with Blackpool three years ago. They were also tipped to be battered from pillar to post after going up via the play-offs but they won 4-0 at Wigan Athletic on the opening day; although they eventually went down, they finished only a point away from safety.
That freewheeling side attacked with abandon, scoring and conceding freely, and stole the neutrals' hearts with their wide-eyed approach, yet Holloway knows Palace cannot be so open.
"We [Blackpool] were an attack-minded team," he said. "We are a defence-minded team here. We've lost some of our counterattacking skills with Wilfried going. I haven't replaced that yet. I won't be so gung-ho because I haven't got so many attacking players."
One big-money signing that Holloway has been able to make is Prozone, which he hopes will enable him to formulate masterplans to stop superior teams. It was too expensive for him to use at Blackpool but now it is one of the reasons he has been up all night, and hearing him talk about it is like listening to a small child telling you about the new toy he got for Christmas.
"I'm going to have to learn how to judge other teams' passing patterns," Holloway said. "I'm going to have a very helpful tool here, where I get a lot of information about how far people run, how many miles they cover, what passing patterns they've got so I can actually look at a lot more information on who we're playing against.
"I'll be able to work on putting bodies in the way and hopefully stopping them having a rhythm, break things up and then be awkward and counterattack. You've got to learn everything you can if you're not going to be as strong as the other teams. It's massive, absolutely massive, the information you get. It's absolutely incredible."
While the emphasis will be on defensive solidity, Palace still need to find a way to score without Murray. They thought Bent was theirs, only for him to have a late change of heart, and are instead counting on Dwight Gayle, signed for an initial £3.25m from Peterborough, and Marouane Chamakh, a free transfer from Arsenal. Signing Chamakh is a gamble after three difficult years at the Emirates but Holloway believes the Moroccan can revive his career.
"He could have sat there for another year," he said. "But he wants to come and play. I told him what I think I can do for him. Obviously he bought into it and he wanted to come. Some of the other ones I've tried to do that with this summer have chosen other people. Good luck to them."
Above all, Holloway wants to be taken seriously. "I'm just trying to talk in a way that people don't think I'm funny," he said. "I'm fed up with that. I'm not a comedian, I'm a football manager." Palace are in no mood to be a laughing stock either.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/16/ian-holloway-crystal-palace
The manager has been burning the midnight oil to devise a plan that will prevent Palace going straight back down
Ian Holloway is exhausted and the season has not even started yet. A good night's sleep is a pipe dream. Instead, Holloway has found himself staying up watching videos, analysing opponents and scouting potential signings, all in a bid to give Crystal Palace the best possible chance of Premier League survival, which the majority of pundits expect to be beyond them.
It seems an unenviable task and Holloway cut a weary, frustrated figure at Palace's training ground this week as the disappointment of missing out on Darren Bent, who signed for Fulham, and worries about the thinness of his squad take their toll. Such is life for the manager of a newly-promoted side.
"You can ask my wife what time I finish and what time I start," Holloway said. "She'll tell you, last night it was half past 12, watching clips. I'm trying to play catch-up. Half past 12. I'm having to watch players and players and players. I don't think this time last year Crystal Palace would have had a scouting network going through the whole of Europe to find players to play in the Premier League. It's tiring."
However, it will all be worth it if Holloway can achieve the impossible and keep Palace in the top flight. The odds are against him and so is history – Palace have been relegated in each of their previous four seasons in the revamped top division. However, a deeper concern is Holloway's fear that his squad is not ready to take on such a daunting challenge. He has lost his star player, Wilfried Zaha, to Manchester United, Glenn Murray, who scored 31 goals last season, damaged his cruciate ligament in May and Palace will face Tottenham Hotspur at Selhurst Park on Sunday with a squad depleted by injuries. Holloway fears he will not be able to fill his 25-man squad unless he adds to the eight signings he has already made.
None of this, though, should lead to the assumption that there is a defeatist air around Palace, who have made a habit of confounding expectations under Holloway, who replaced Dougie Freedman as manager last November after the Scot joined Bolton Wanderers.
Palace were not even expected to challenge for promotion, they were expected to lose to Brighton & Hove Albion in their play-off semi-final and they were expected to go down to Watford in the final. They are used to people writing them off. The response tends to be one of defiance.
"I think people are just quoting stats and good luck to them – everybody's got to earn a living doing whatever they do," Holloway said. "But it's amazing what can motivate you. We will want to be as good as we can be and keep working hard. That's all you'll see from my team, no matter what. We'll keep fighting, we'll keep battling and I remember 60 or 70 days ago that we were written off in the play-offs. Even after the first game in the play-offs, people wrote us off. Even after the first half of the first game of the play-offs."
Holloway was in a similar position with Blackpool three years ago. They were also tipped to be battered from pillar to post after going up via the play-offs but they won 4-0 at Wigan Athletic on the opening day; although they eventually went down, they finished only a point away from safety.
That freewheeling side attacked with abandon, scoring and conceding freely, and stole the neutrals' hearts with their wide-eyed approach, yet Holloway knows Palace cannot be so open.
"We [Blackpool] were an attack-minded team," he said. "We are a defence-minded team here. We've lost some of our counterattacking skills with Wilfried going. I haven't replaced that yet. I won't be so gung-ho because I haven't got so many attacking players."
One big-money signing that Holloway has been able to make is Prozone, which he hopes will enable him to formulate masterplans to stop superior teams. It was too expensive for him to use at Blackpool but now it is one of the reasons he has been up all night, and hearing him talk about it is like listening to a small child telling you about the new toy he got for Christmas.
"I'm going to have to learn how to judge other teams' passing patterns," Holloway said. "I'm going to have a very helpful tool here, where I get a lot of information about how far people run, how many miles they cover, what passing patterns they've got so I can actually look at a lot more information on who we're playing against.
"I'll be able to work on putting bodies in the way and hopefully stopping them having a rhythm, break things up and then be awkward and counterattack. You've got to learn everything you can if you're not going to be as strong as the other teams. It's massive, absolutely massive, the information you get. It's absolutely incredible."
While the emphasis will be on defensive solidity, Palace still need to find a way to score without Murray. They thought Bent was theirs, only for him to have a late change of heart, and are instead counting on Dwight Gayle, signed for an initial £3.25m from Peterborough, and Marouane Chamakh, a free transfer from Arsenal. Signing Chamakh is a gamble after three difficult years at the Emirates but Holloway believes the Moroccan can revive his career.
"He could have sat there for another year," he said. "But he wants to come and play. I told him what I think I can do for him. Obviously he bought into it and he wanted to come. Some of the other ones I've tried to do that with this summer have chosen other people. Good luck to them."
Above all, Holloway wants to be taken seriously. "I'm just trying to talk in a way that people don't think I'm funny," he said. "I'm fed up with that. I'm not a comedian, I'm a football manager." Palace are in no mood to be a laughing stock either.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/16/ian-holloway-crystal-palace
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
I reckon that will be the exact formation and team too.
